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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by LittleLionMan » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:31 am

M&ADE wrote:Since all the posts floating around these days are "What are my chances with [LSAT Score]?" I was curious to see what job outcomes and grades TLS folks got based on their LSAT. For simplicity's sake with jobs, I'm referring to first job, because we all know that everyone, through hustle, grit, and determination, can still reach their dream job if they try hard enough. :lol:

JUST POST:
1) Job Outcome (select from categories below)
2) LSAT score
3) School range and GPA (T14, Top 50, Top 100, TTTT)



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1) Biglaw
2) 175
3) tier 1; top 1%

This thread seems to really be about :LSAT correlation to grades (since outside the very top schools grades=jobs), which a thread like this would never be able to answer. But for some more anecdotal evidence, at my tier 1 school--as far as a I know--I am the only "splitter" at the very top of our class; the other top of the class students had great undergrad GPAs.

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:37 pm

1. BigLaw - Secondary market but still $160k
2. LSAT - 163
3. T100 - around top 10%

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

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1. V50
2. 174
3. Median at CCN

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:21 pm

V5
159
T30 top third transferred to T13 and now top 25%

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by 84651846190 » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:V5
159
T30 top third transferred to T13 and now top 25%
lol

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by jselson » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:36 pm

Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:V5
159
T30 top third transferred to T13 and now top 25%
lol
Who would want to be associated with GeorgeTTTTown?

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Elston Gunn » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:37 pm

jselson wrote:
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:V5
159
T30 top third transferred to T13 and now top 25%
lol
Who would want to be associated with GeorgeTTTTown?
That's definitely not the part that's lol-worthy.

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by jselson » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:42 pm

Elston Gunn wrote:
jselson wrote:
Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:V5
159
T30 top third transferred to T13 and now top 25%
lol
Who would want to be associated with GeorgeTTTTown?
That's definitely not the part that's lol-worthy.
Then I'm missing the joke, unless it's low-LSAT plus striver details about transferring/class rank. Or something about law school admissions/hiring being a sham. Or idk.

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Elston Gunn » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:46 pm

jselson wrote: Then I'm missing the joke, unless it's low-LSAT plus striver details about transferring/class rank. Or something about law school admissions/hiring being a sham. Or idk.
Just an extra-special snowflake.

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by jselson » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:50 pm

Elston Gunn wrote:
jselson wrote: Then I'm missing the joke, unless it's low-LSAT plus striver details about transferring/class rank. Or something about law school admissions/hiring being a sham. Or idk.
Just an extra-special snowflake.
Anyone can do it if they work hard.

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:18 pm

V50
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Top 50....3.8 (Top 2%)

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:01 am

1) clerking in major market
2) 159 IIRC
3) DCNG - school doesn't rank but 3.69 gpa

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by bk1 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:13 am

What is this information even supposed to be helpful for? Like even if you had this data for every individual ever, what decision would be informed by such data?


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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:17 am

1. No job (haven't graduated yet but struck out as a 2L)
2. ~175
3. Median at CCN

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by 84651846190 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:30 am

jselson wrote:
Elston Gunn wrote:
jselson wrote: Then I'm missing the joke, unless it's low-LSAT plus striver details about transferring/class rank. Or something about law school admissions/hiring being a sham. Or idk.
Just an extra-special snowflake.
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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Manhattan » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:39 am

Anonymous User wrote:1) clerking in major market
2) 159 IIRC
3) DCNG - school doesn't rank but 3.69 gpa
Obviously not N because that GPA would be in the bottom 10% at Northwestern.

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:16 am

1) Big law (V50 - 160k)
2) 171
3) T14 - top third / top quarter (we don't rank).

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by OneMoreLawHopeful » Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:43 am

bk1 wrote:What is this information even supposed to be helpful for? Like even if you had this data for every individual ever, what decision would be informed by such data?
This was covered on the first page:
jselson wrote:The reason is LSAT tracks schools. The only way this thread becomes interesting is if lots of high LSAT folks at TTTs start posting AND state whether they had jobs lined up before law school or not.
There's an endless debate on TLS about whether people with "high stats" could kill it at a TTT and end up at the top of their class.

If it turns out that the kids with 170+ scores who nonetheless went to schools outside of the t14 all ended up at v100 firms, then that has real meaning in terms of that debate.

However, I will readily acknowledge that the way this info is being collected could never reasonably get at that conclusion.

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by 84651846190 » Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:15 am

Anonymous User wrote:1) clerking in major market
2) 159 IIRC
3) DCNG - school doesn't rank but 3.69 gpa
Not trying to be a dick, but I'm genuinely curious: How in the fuck did you get a 159 on the LSAT? You are obviously very intelligent. Did you have a seizure during one of the test sections or something?

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:31 am

1. Art. III clerk in semi-flyover land.
2. 162.
3. A bit above median at T40.

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Manhattan » Mon Nov 17, 2014 4:59 am

Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:1) clerking in major market
2) 159 IIRC
3) DCNG - school doesn't rank but 3.69 gpa
Not trying to be a dick, but I'm genuinely curious: How in the fuck did you get a 159 on the LSAT? You are obviously very intelligent. Did you have a seizure during one of the test sections or something?
Wow. This is an unnecessary and douchey comment. This poster's 159 is probably higher than the LSAT score of every single person attending Indiana Tech Law School, and it is only two points lower than the median LSAT score of BYU.

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by jselson » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:27 am

Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
jselson wrote:
Elston Gunn wrote:
jselson wrote: Then I'm missing the joke, unless it's low-LSAT plus striver details about transferring/class rank. Or something about law school admissions/hiring being a sham. Or idk.
Just an extra-special snowflake.
Anyone can do it if they work hard.
Bootstraps!
Every single person at a TTTT could be number 1 if they all tried hard. If you let math stand in your way, then you didn't try hard enough. #2 deserves unemployment.

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Re: Survey of Job Outcome and Grades compared to LSAT Score

Post by Elston Gunn » Mon Nov 17, 2014 8:31 am

OneMoreLawHopeful wrote:
bk1 wrote:What is this information even supposed to be helpful for? Like even if you had this data for every individual ever, what decision would be informed by such data?
This was covered on the first page:
jselson wrote:The reason is LSAT tracks schools. The only way this thread becomes interesting is if lots of high LSAT folks at TTTs start posting AND state whether they had jobs lined up before law school or not.
There's an endless debate on TLS about whether people with "high stats" could kill it at a TTT and end up at the top of their class.

If it turns out that the kids with 170+ scores who nonetheless went to schools outside of the t14 all ended up at v100 firms, then that has real meaning in terms of that debate.

However, I will readily acknowledge that the way this info is being collected could never reasonably get at that conclusion.
There is at least 1, possiby multiple academic studies of the correlation between LSAT scores and law school GPA. ..

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