Summer Classes 2015 Edition--Distributions in OP Forum

[Tiago Splitter]

If Skadden alone took 21 people it doesn't sound like you have to be a Stone scholar.

Last year something like 80% of their offers went to Stone scholars but to be Stone you have to be like top 40% so it's kind of a meaningless distinction.

[patagonia93]

If Skadden alone took 21 people it doesn't sound like you have to be a Stone scholar.

Probably has to do w Stone ppl getting offers to several of those firms since it's based on the offers % instead of acceptance. But looking at the data it actually looks like it's normal for the top ny firms to take around that number from CLS

[Mal Reynolds]

If Skadden alone took 21 people it doesn't sound like you have to be a Stone scholar.

Last year something like 80% of their offers went to Stone scholars but to be Stone you have to be like top 40% so it's kind of a meaningless distinction.

Oh so above median? I thought that was way more impressive.

[jbagelboy]

Median at UChi is completely in play for every NY firm other than WLRK and maybe Boies depending on intra-class competition for it. I have numbers to support that 4 years running it's not just my homer schtick.

Damn that's pretty good. I don't have all the data in front of me, but I think CSM/S&C/STB/DPW/Cleary/Skadden/L&W/Boies take 80-100% of their class from Stone (top thirdish) and above at CLS.

Ha yea, being median at UChi and having all those options is pretty fantastic. Banjo's right that you pretty much have to be Stone at CLS to have a decent shot at any of those firms listed (all take 80%+).

Skadden NYC with 21 from Columbia though? Wow. Abnormally large representation there.

that's not really true though. It helps to be stone but its not totally necessary

[SLS_AMG]

Skadden is easily the least grade selective of the V5 firms. Its recruiting process seems to be the total opposite of S&C's, actually - meaning medianish grades are fine with the right personality.

[Manhattan]

Skadden is easily the least grade selective of the V5 firms. Its recruiting process seems to be the total opposite of S&C's, actually - meaning medianish grades are fine with the right personality.

This has been discussed on here before, but I am not sure this is true.

[Anonymous User]

Kirkland & Ellis -- NY

NYU:9
GULC:8
Columbia: 6
Harvard: 6
Fordham: 3
GW: 3
Michigan: 2
Notre Dame: 2
Penn: 2
Washington University: 2
Berkeley: 1
BC: 1
Cardozo: 1
Connecticut: 1
Duke: 1
Indiana-Bloomington: 1
Texas: 1
Toronto: 1
USC: 1
Yale: 1

Total: 54

[parkslope]

Skadden is easily the least grade selective of the V5 firms. Its recruiting process seems to be the total opposite of S&C's, actually - meaning medianish grades are fine with the right personality.

The thing that interests me is why Skadden NY is substantially less selective than other V5 firms. It has great M&A (the glamor practice for corporate-leaning 2Ls) and Band 1 litigation.

[Old Gregg]

Skadden is easily the least grade selective of the V5 firms. Its recruiting process seems to be the total opposite of S&C's, actually - meaning medianish grades are fine with the right personality.

The thing that interests me is why Skadden NY is substantially less selective than other V5 firms. It has great M&A (the glamor practice for corporate-leaning 2Ls) and Band 1 litigation.

This is the dumbest post ITT, arguably.

[patagonia93]

Skadden is easily the least grade selective of the V5 firms. Its recruiting process seems to be the total opposite of S&C's, actually - meaning medianish grades are fine with the right personality.

The thing that interests me is why Skadden NY is substantially less selective than other V5 firms. It has great M&A (the glamor practice for corporate-leaning 2Ls) and Band 1 litigation.

This has been asked before and it's pretty silly. Why Skadden takes several more non-Stone students from schools like Columbia than other V5s has nothing to do with the strength of its practices.

[jbagelboy]

Skadden is easily the least grade selective of the V5 firms. Its recruiting process seems to be the total opposite of S&C's, actually - meaning medianish grades are fine with the right personality.

The thing that interests me is why Skadden NY is substantially less selective than other V5 firms. It has great M&A (the glamor practice for corporate-leaning 2Ls) and Band 1 litigation.

This has been asked before and it's pretty silly. Why Skadden takes several more non-Stone students from schools like Columbia than other V5s has nothing to do with the strength of its practices. At least at CLS, a firm at that level can choose to not offer 2-4 non-Stone scholars and boost its "selectivity" report right away.

Maybe; but skadden has different hiring practices that makes its recruitment more volatile grade-wise and targets other candidate profiles. For example, they do a huge diversity push at CLS (and like more than half of BLSA is headed to skadden as a result). I also believe they do factor personality and fit rather strongly into their SA recruitment; they will reach below honors at top schools, but also won't take every honors student at those same schools.

Yield-wise, I don't think skadden could just stop offering spots to anyone median and below and bring in the same class size from top schools. They would lose some students and have to fill in from other schools as a result.

[parkslope]

Skadden is easily the least grade selective of the V5 firms. Its recruiting process seems to be the total opposite of S&C's, actually - meaning medianish grades are fine with the right personality.

The thing that interests me is why Skadden NY is substantially less selective than other V5 firms. It has great M&A (the glamor practice for corporate-leaning 2Ls) and Band 1 litigation.

This is the dumbest post ITT, arguably.

Well, fine, but what is it then? Fratty culture? Times Square?

EDIT: So Skadden is less grade-selective by choice, apparently. But the more interesting question is whether the top students at, e.g., CLS--the ones with a lot of V10 offers--take Skadden at lower rates than the other V5 firms. I was saying earlier that it seemed like the answer was yes.

[BmoreOrLess]

Skadden (NYC)

Unknown: 8
Harvard: 11
GWU: 1
Columbia: 21
Cornell: 3
Virginia: 8
Berkeley: 5
Chicago: 5
Fordham: 2
NYU: 16
Vanderbilt: 4
Brooklyn: 2
UNC: 1
Stanford: 2
Georgetown: 6
Boston: 1
Duke: 1
Penn: 2
Michigan: 1
Yale: 1
W&M: 1
McGill: 1

I've been saying GW got wrecked this year, and seeing both STB and Skadden take a ton from Georgetown but none from us is towards that trend.

I feel like half of the 2L's I've met here at GULC are GW transfers, so it's possible a portion GULC's numbers may actually be GW transfers.

[Desert Fox]

Selective and grade selective aren't the same thing.

[FSK]

Skadden (NYC)

Unknown: 8
Harvard: 11
GWU: 1
Columbia: 21
Cornell: 3
Virginia: 8
Berkeley: 5
Chicago: 5
Fordham: 2
NYU: 16
Vanderbilt: 4
Brooklyn: 2
UNC: 1
Stanford: 2
Georgetown: 6
Boston: 1
Duke: 1
Penn: 2
Michigan: 1
Yale: 1
W&M: 1
McGill: 1

I've been saying GW got wrecked this year, and seeing both STB and Skadden take a ton from Georgetown but none from us is towards that trend.

I feel like half of the 2L's I've met here at GULC are GW transfers, so it's possible a portion GULC's numbers may actually be GW transfers.

I don't doubt that, but that transfer seems so bad. Maybe I'm biased because I went with $$$ instead of law center prestige.

[sublime]

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[Anonymous User]

Kirkland & Ellis -- NY


Washington University: 2


Total: 54

Wow. I didn't know that we sent anybody there.

2 JD,MBAs who are technically 3Ls who got another bite at the OCI apple after strike outs is what I heard.

[sublime]

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[Anonymous User]

Kirkland & Ellis -- NY


Washington University: 2


Total: 54

Wow. I didn't know that we sent anybody there.

2 JD,MBAs who are technically 3Ls who got another bite at the OCI apple after strike outs is what I heard.

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And ty.

Yep - glad it worked out. Helps also to have sources at the school after you graduate which is how I know

Nice. Good for them

[Anonymous User]

Milbank LA (9)

Berkeley: 1

Georgetown: 1

Loyola Law: 1

Michigan: 1

UCI: 2

UCLA: 2

USC: 1


Apparently they love UCI.

[Anonymous User]

a touch late but one of the unknowns for Skadden NY is Texas

[Anonymous User]

Milbank LA (9)

Berkeley: 1

Georgetown: 1

Loyola Law: 1

Michigan: 1

UCI: 2

UCLA: 2

USC: 1


Apparently they love UCI.

or their number one picks turned them down for other firms?

[jbagelboy]

Milbank LA (9)

Berkeley: 1

Georgetown: 1

Loyola Law: 1

Michigan: 1

UCI: 2

UCLA: 2

USC: 1


Apparently they love UCI.

or their number one picks turned them down for other firms?

*dramaaaa*

[Anonymous User]

Kirkland & Ellis -- NY


Washington University: 2


Total: 54

Wow. I didn't know that we sent anybody there.

2 JD,MBAs who are technically 3Ls who got another bite at the OCI apple after strike outs is what I heard.

It goes to show that tacking on an MBA can be a good idea if you did strike out in 2L OCI and then went on to get really good grades during the 2L year and improved your ranking significantly. Both of them had a bunch of different options in firms that they didn't have after 1L.

[mvp99]

http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/14/news/ec ... ?hpt=hp_t2

Poor Texas