Fall 2014 - 2L OCI Results Forum

[Anonymous User]

School Range:T30
Market(s): New York, Chicago, California, Boston
Approximate class rank: median or just under
Law review/secondary journal: secondary
Work experience: 5+ years
IP background: strong ip
Anything else that might have an impact? For IP I'm personable... Not saying much
Screening Interviews: 10
Callbacks received: 7
Callbacks accepted: 4
Offers w/vault range: V100-V50
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? Accepted/withdrew before most for back to me
Thank-you notes sent: some

[Anonymous User]

School Range: HYS
Market(s): NYC, LA
Approximate class rank:
Law review/secondary journal: Secondary Journal
Work experience: Yes, 4 years, media/entertainment
Anything else that might have an impact? No
Screening Interviews: 26
Callbacks received: 6
Callbacks accepted: 6
Offers w/vault ranges: 1, v5, NYC
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? None
Thank-you notes sent: only after callbacks

[Anonymous User]

School Range: T20 (transfer from ~T40-50)
Market(s): Texas
Approximate class rank: top 25%
Law review/secondary journal: secondary
Work experience: No FT, although UG finance, accounting, and tech internship experiences
IP background: none
Anything else that might have an impact? very strong ties to the market
Screening Interviews: 14
Callbacks received: 8
Callbacks accepted: 8
Offers w/vault range: V100 (& two market-paying midlaw)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 2 screeners
Thank-you notes sent: only to 3/8 firms. 2 of them ended in offers and 1 in rejection.

[Anonymous User]

School Range:T14 (transfer from ~T40-50)
Market(s): DC; Chicago; NorCal
Approximate class rank: top 33%
Journal: Invited to 2 secondaries; none at new school
Work experience: None
IP background: CS/EE
Anything else that might have an impact? Strong ties to DC; No ties to NorCal; some times to Chicago. Personable, I think, and love interviews - rare trait for IP I guess..
Screening Interviews: 52
Callbacks received: 14
Callbacks accepted: 13
Offers w/vault ranges: 7 (ranges from V15 ~ V60)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? countless
Thank-you notes sent: none

[Anonymous User]

School Range: Lower T-14
Market(s): DC/NY
Approximate class rank: top 5%
Law review/secondary journal: Law Review/Main Journal
Work experience: Significant, but non-legal
IP background: none
Anything else that might have an impact? Ties to areas
Screening Interviews: 22
Callbacks received: 19
Callbacks accepted: 11
Offers w/vault range: 10 Offers (V3 & several top DC firms)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 0
Thank you letters: 0

[Anonymous User]

School Range: T-14
Market(s): DC/NY
Approximate class rank: top 30%
Law review/secondary journal: Secondary
Work experience: Decent, but nothing amazing
IP background: none
Anything else that might have an impact? URM
Screening Interviews: 13
Callbacks received: 12
Callbacks accepted: 9
Offers w/vault range: 8 Offers (2 V3, 3 V10, 1V15 1V25 1V50)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 0
Thank you letters: 0

[Anonymous User]

School Range:t80
Market(s): New York, Washington DC
Approximate class rank: Top 15%
Law review/secondary journal: Primary
Work experience: 5+ years
IP background: None
Anything else that might have an impact? I am a part-time law student, I work full time in the legal field
Screening Interviews: 19
Callbacks received: 10
Callbacks accepted: 10
Offers w/vault range: 2 V50 (1 in DC, 1 in NYC), 1 non-ranked (secondary market), the remainder I canceled.
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? None
Thank-you notes sent: After every interview.

[Anonymous User]

School Range: TTTT
Market(s): California, Midwest (secondary)
Approximate class rank: Top 20%
Law review/secondary journal: None
Work experience: Nothing relevant
IP background: Yes
Anything else that might have an impact? BSEE, USPTO registered
Screening Interviews: 21 (most from IP law job fairs)
Callbacks received: 2
Callbacks accepted: 2
Offers w/vault range: 1 (small/midsize IP boutique, no vault rank)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? 4 post screener
Thank-you notes sent: Only after the one CB where I got an offer

[Anonymous User]

School Range: T14
Market(s): NY/CA/DC
Approximate class rank: Top quarter
Law review/secondary journal: Secondary journal
Work experience: Finance work experience; also worked in a widely-respected legal position (almost every interviewer seemed genuinely interested)
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? Strong ties to NY/CA markets; probably didn't matter but I received lots of resume compliments, including from my WLRK interviewer. I don't use the typical formatting suggested by law schools, i.e., Times New Roman and dull, but used the formatting that was successful during my job search in the finance. (Isn't the whole point to stand out from the thousands of other law students they interview?)
Screening Interviews: 32
Callbacks received: 26 (+1 MBB Consulting)
Callbacks accepted: 8 (scheduled my top choices first and cancelled the rest after receiving offers)
Offers w/vault ranges: 5 offers from V5 to V50 (lower vault-ranked firms were litigation powerhouses)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? Did not keep track
Thank-you notes sent: No

[Anonymous User]

School Range: Top 5 (YHSCC)
Market(s): Chicago, Charlotte, D.C.
Approximate class rank: Top Third to top Quarter
Law review/secondary journal: No
Work experience: Strong (Finance)
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? Strong interview skills
Screening Interviews: Several non-OCI interviews (gained from calling and e-mailing alumni from Law school and elite undergrad).
Callbacks received: 9
Callbacks accepted: 7
Offers w/vault ranges: 2 V50 offers (1 accepted); 2 V100 offers
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? Just one, smaller regional firm.
Thank-you notes sent: Any of the firms I did a callback with + a couple more that I cancelled on.

Further note: I demonstrated interest in a somewhat specific practice area (capital markets / finance and banking) that fit with my undergrad study and work after college which I think helped ALOT.

[Anonymous User]

^if you went to Cahill, enjoy! Great firm and was on my shortlist. (Finance refugee here as well.)

[Anonymous User]

So it looks like the job market is much better than previous years.

[nsideirish]

So it looks like the job market is much better than previous years.

Self-selection

[Anonymous User]

School Range: Bottom-half T14
Market(s): DC
Approximate class rank: Top 5%
Law review/secondary journal: Yes
Work experience: Some
IP background: No
Anything else that might have an impact? No
Screening Interviews: 20+
Callbacks received: 11
Callbacks accepted: 7
Offers w/vault ranges: 4, 2 V20, 2 V50
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? One Screener
Thank-you notes sent: One callback (offer), no others

[Anonymous User]

So it looks like the job market is much better than previous years.

Self-selection

One possible explanation but I do think outlook is better this year.

I know our school did exceptionally well this year at least


Coming from a guy that struck out...

[Anonymous User]

Definitely self selection.

[Anonymous User]

So it looks like the job market is much better than previous years.

Self-selection

One possible explanation but I do think outlook is better this year.

I know our school did exceptionally well this year at least


Coming from a guy that struck out...

My school did NOT do exceptionally well. Actually one of its worst placement years.

[Anonymous User]

School Range: Nova/Drexel/RU-C
Market(s): Philly/NJ/DE
Approximate class rank: top 10-15%
Law review/secondary journal: secondary
Work experience: nothing relevant, just a few years in the service industry
IP background: no
Anything else that might have an impact? Absolutely no ties to Philly/NJ/DE other than attending law school here. I got hammered on this during every interview and know it negatively impacted my cycle. On the positive side, I received a dozen awards in college mock trial/debate, and it also came up during every interview, so probably a marginal boost.
Screening Interviews: 14
Callbacks received: 5 (1 V50, 1 V100, 1 midlaw, 2 smallish firms)
Callbacks accepted: 4; cancelled the midlaw CB b/c an offer was going to expire and they wouldn't move it up
Offers w/vault ranges: 0 vault range, two offers from the smallish firms (30-60 attys)
How many firms just didn't get back with you with a rejection/callback? most, probably 6 or 7
Thank-you notes sent: no

[Anonymous User]

So it looks like the job market is much better than previous years.

Self-selection

One possible explanation but I do think outlook is better this year.

I know our school did exceptionally well this year at least


Coming from a guy that struck out...

My school did NOT do exceptionally well. Actually one of its worst placement years.

Best year for BigLaw hiring since 2006 at my t14. Very very few people left without big law that wanted it

You will always get the kids that struck out spamming this boards saying how bad the job market is. If anything id say the amount of negativity is more self selection than the prevalence of positive outcomes.

[Mal Reynolds]

These anon replies are really adding a ton of useful information to this bort.

My unidentified t14 did great!! Mine did bad!!

[A. Nony Mouse]

It's always interesting to see people post their results, but given that we have fewer than 75 posts reporting outcomes here, I don't get how anyone can remotely fool themselves into thinking this thread tells us anything about general outcomes.

[Anonymous User]

Self-selection

One possible explanation but I do think outlook is better this year.

I know our school did exceptionally well this year at least


Coming from a guy that struck out...

My school did NOT do exceptionally well. Actually one of its worst placement years.

Best year for BigLaw hiring since 2006 at my t14. Very very few people left without big law that wanted it

You will always get the kids that struck out spamming this boards saying how bad the job market is. If anything id say the amount of negativity is more self selection than the prevalence of positive outcomes.

I'm the poster you quoted. I'm one of the few who did get placed in Biglaw. It wasn't self-selection negativity. I was adding that despite my own fortuitous outcome, the overall placement was BAD.

[Anonymous User]

These anon replies are really adding a ton of useful information to this bort.

My unidentified t14 did great!! Mine did bad!!

Posting anon because I don't go to a T14 and there weren't many who went to biglaw from my school so I would likely be outted. School in non-NYC major market. School didn't do great.

[Mal Reynolds]

These anon replies are really adding a ton of useful information to this bort.

My unidentified t14 did great!! Mine did bad!!

Posting anon because I don't go to a T14 and there weren't many who went to biglaw from my school so I would likely be outted. School in non-NYC major market. School didn't do great.

This is a startling revelation.

[cookiejar1]

How can anyone even really *know* how well OCI went at their respective T14s without hard data being released from CSO? Anecdata is likely to suffer from self-selection bias too as I'm sure people who don't have offers don't BROADCAST it as those with 5 V5 offers do.