Consulting - the end of a legal career? Forum

[XxSpyKEx]

Not that silly if you have Scholarship

Yeah it is. Unless the school is also paying you 3 years of lost opportunity costs to attend and somehow you are getting work experience elsewhere as well (since your odds of actually getting into consulting with a JD are that slim). It's basically like wasting 3 years of your life and shutting the door to other job opportunities by getting a JD (since other employers that might have hired you prior to law school are no longer going to be interested in hiring you because you are now too much of a flight risk). Obviously, it makes sense to get a JD if you actually want to practice law, but if you don't then it's just dumb.

That's what i meant, getting a JD for Business is dumb unless you get full-ride at a top school, but hey, many Consulting firms, Investment Banks, F500 Companies look at Lawyers for Business positions since they have a more sharp mentality than most Business grads out there.
+They are often looked at since they can use their Analytical prowess to talk to clients.

Coming from a Corporate Law background, no one will doubt that you have the required stamina to do either Management Consulting or Investment Banking + any other relevent Business job, the only thing you have to prove is that you can count.

If you did Business before Law(That's what i plan to do first hand.), you won't even have to worry about proving yourself.


In fact, many, many successful CEOs all around the world hold Law Degrees, (ex: Goldman Sachs CEO, Lazard's creator, Quebecor's CEO, just to name a few.)

You'll basically have to sell yourself if you want a job in Business, easier said than done.

I don't understand why you wouldn't simply get an MBA instead of a JD if all you want is a job in the business world (and not any legal job)? I mean business school is called business school for a reason: it gets you a job in the business world. Law school is called law school for a reason: it is supposed to get you a job as a lawyer (and not as a consultant or I-banker). The mere fact that there are a few exceptions out there that get jobs as consultants or I-bankers after going to law school still doesn't make it a good idea to go to law school when you don't want to practice law, even if you got a scholarship.

[Seally]

Not that silly if you have Scholarship

Yeah it is. Unless the school is also paying you 3 years of lost opportunity costs to attend and somehow you are getting work experience elsewhere as well (since your odds of actually getting into consulting with a JD are that slim). It's basically like wasting 3 years of your life and shutting the door to other job opportunities by getting a JD (since other employers that might have hired you prior to law school are no longer going to be interested in hiring you because you are now too much of a flight risk). Obviously, it makes sense to get a JD if you actually want to practice law, but if you don't then it's just dumb.

That's what i meant, getting a JD for Business is dumb unless you get full-ride at a top school, but hey, many Consulting firms, Investment Banks, F500 Companies look at Lawyers for Business positions since they have a more sharp mentality than most Business grads out there.
+They are often looked at since they can use their Analytical prowess to talk to clients.

Coming from a Corporate Law background, no one will doubt that you have the required stamina to do either Management Consulting or Investment Banking + any other relevent Business job, the only thing you have to prove is that you can count.

If you did Business before Law(That's what i plan to do first hand.), you won't even have to worry about proving yourself.


In fact, many, many successful CEOs all around the world hold Law Degrees, (ex: Goldman Sachs CEO, Lazard's creator, Quebecor's CEO, just to name a few.)

You'll basically have to sell yourself if you want a job in Business, easier said than done.

I don't understand why you wouldn't simply get an MBA instead of a JD if all you want is a job in the business world (and not any legal job)? I mean business school is called business school for a reason: it gets you a job in the business world. Law school is called law school for a reason: it is supposed to get you a job as a lawyer (and not as a consultant or I-banker). The mere fact that there are a few exceptions out there that get jobs as consultants or I-bankers after going to law school still doesn't make it a good idea to go to law school when you don't want to practice law, even if you got a scholarship.

Because B-Schools actually have math requirements for their UG programs, so the only way out to some students is to do Law and then switch.
Never said i wouldn't consider Legal jobs as well.

[XxSpyKEx]

I don't understand why you wouldn't simply get an MBA instead of a JD if all you want is a job in the business world (and not any legal job)? I mean business school is called business school for a reason: it gets you a job in the business world. Law school is called law school for a reason: it is supposed to get you a job as a lawyer (and not as a consultant or I-banker). The mere fact that there are a few exceptions out there that get jobs as consultants or I-bankers after going to law school still doesn't make it a good idea to go to law school when you don't want to practice law, even if you got a scholarship.

Because B-Schools actually have math requirements for their UG programs, so the only way out to some students is to do Law and then switch.

So you can't handle fairly simple UG level math, but you think you're going to get a job at McKinsey or a large I-bank?

Good luck with that plan. You're going to need it.

[Blindmelon]

I don't understand why you wouldn't simply get an MBA instead of a JD if all you want is a job in the business world (and not any legal job)? I mean business school is called business school for a reason: it gets you a job in the business world. Law school is called law school for a reason: it is supposed to get you a job as a lawyer (and not as a consultant or I-banker). The mere fact that there are a few exceptions out there that get jobs as consultants or I-bankers after going to law school still doesn't make it a good idea to go to law school when you don't want to practice law, even if you got a scholarship.

Because B-Schools actually have math requirements for their UG programs, so the only way out to some students is to do Law and then switch.

So you can't handle fairly simple UG level math, but you think you're going to get a job at McKinsey or a large I-bank?

Good luck with that plan. You're going to need it.

Yea.... you also realize that consulting often involves a lot of excel/stats right? Working at a management consulting firm doesn't mean you run meetings/schmooze all day...

[Blindmelon]

Also, please stop spitting out that some CEOs have JDs, or IBankers have JDs, etc. Its irrelevant. One of my old bosses had a MS in social work, doesn't mean I should go to social work school to get into consulting.

But seriously... business draws people from diverse backgrounds, even consulting firms do. People have PhDs, MDs, you name it. It doesn't mean thats a good way to get into business - it just means that some people worked elsewhere for a while that related to a certain practice that a consulting firm works in and therefore poached some people. Doubtful that people got an unrelated degree (like a JD) and just jumped into consulting/business whatever.

[Seally]

I don't understand why you wouldn't simply get an MBA instead of a JD if all you want is a job in the business world (and not any legal job)? I mean business school is called business school for a reason: it gets you a job in the business world. Law school is called law school for a reason: it is supposed to get you a job as a lawyer (and not as a consultant or I-banker). The mere fact that there are a few exceptions out there that get jobs as consultants or I-bankers after going to law school still doesn't make it a good idea to go to law school when you don't want to practice law, even if you got a scholarship.

Because B-Schools actually have math requirements for their UG programs, so the only way out to some students is to do Law and then switch.

So you can't handle fairly simple UG level math, but you think you're going to get a job at McKinsey or a large I-bank?

Good luck with that plan. You're going to need it.

It's not my case you nut, my UG is Business, i'm talking about other people's plans that i saw.
Never said my MAIN plan was McKinsey or IBanking, just an "slightly opened door" that would be an option just in case i change my mind in the last minute.

Oh, and the maths involved in Investment Banking/Management Consulting are REALLY simple, additions, substractions, divisions if you want to feel a bit cooler.

If you think you REALLY need a B-School degree to do this level of Maths then you must be retarded, just sayin'.

[LSHopeful2]

BigLaw pros: - Decent/Good salary in most cases.
- Better Benefit/Retirement Packages than Investment Banking, comparable to Consulting.
- Better chance to make Partner than Investment Banking.
- Fairly good exit opportunities, you can move go Consulting/Investment Banking/In-house/
BigGov with useful assets.
- Most of the time, actual Partners knowing you won't make Partner usually give you
useful contacts and help to get decent jobs once you leave BigLaw.

cons: - Shit hours but less harsh than what Investment Bankers have to go through.
- Nature of work is far more boring than Consulting/Invesment Banking.
- In your first years, you will lack contact with pretty much everyone within the firm.
- Secretaries, Paralegals and other support staff do have an impact on a
decision wether to make an Associate go Partner or tell him to leave.


Hope it helps guys.

Oh my god are you kidding? Biglaw consists of even more dreadful, tedious, mechanical, absolute boring work than IB? I thought IB was the king of boredom and trumps all fields in term of absolute meaningless and random work?

Does anyone else agree that biglaw work is worse than IB? Can you please give me an example: what do you do in biglaw? Just review cases, prepare endless drafts, over and over again?

What field then is very lucrative coming out, yet very fun and not tedious or mind-boggling?

[ToTransferOrNot]

BigLaw pros: - Decent/Good salary in most cases.
- Better Benefit/Retirement Packages than Investment Banking, comparable to Consulting.
- Better chance to make Partner than Investment Banking.
- Fairly good exit opportunities, you can move go Consulting/Investment Banking/In-house/
BigGov with useful assets.
- Most of the time, actual Partners knowing you won't make Partner usually give you
useful contacts and help to get decent jobs once you leave BigLaw.

cons: - Shit hours but less harsh than what Investment Bankers have to go through.
- Nature of work is far more boring than Consulting/Invesment Banking.
- In your first years, you will lack contact with pretty much everyone within the firm.
- Secretaries, Paralegals and other support staff do have an impact on a
decision wether to make an Associate go Partner or tell him to leave.


Hope it helps guys.

Oh my god are you kidding? Biglaw consists of even more dreadful, tedious, mechanical, absolute boring work than IB? I thought IB was the king of boredom and trumps all fields in term of absolute meaningless and random work?

Does anyone else agree that biglaw work is worse than IB? Can you please give me an example: what do you do in biglaw? Just review cases, prepare endless drafts, over and over again?

What field then is very lucrative coming out, yet very fun and not tedious or mind-boggling?

Um, does not exist. Rock star. It's called work for a reason.

[megaTTTron]

BigLaw pros: - Decent/Good salary in most cases.
- Better Benefit/Retirement Packages than Investment Banking, comparable to Consulting.
- Better chance to make Partner than Investment Banking.
- Fairly good exit opportunities, you can move go Consulting/Investment Banking/In-house/
BigGov with useful assets.
- Most of the time, actual Partners knowing you won't make Partner usually give you
useful contacts and help to get decent jobs once you leave BigLaw.

cons: - Shit hours but less harsh than what Investment Bankers have to go through.
- Nature of work is far more boring than Consulting/Invesment Banking.
- In your first years, you will lack contact with pretty much everyone within the firm.
- Secretaries, Paralegals and other support staff do have an impact on a
decision wether to make an Associate go Partner or tell him to leave.


Hope it helps guys.

Oh my god are you kidding? Biglaw consists of even more dreadful, tedious, mechanical, absolute boring work than IB? I thought IB was the king of boredom and trumps all fields in term of absolute meaningless and random work?

Does anyone else agree that biglaw work is worse than IB? Can you please give me an example: what do you do in biglaw? Just review cases, prepare endless drafts, over and over again?

What field then is very lucrative coming out, yet very fun and not tedious or mind-boggling?

Um, does not exist. Rock star. It's called work for a reason.

And 95% of the time rock stars sit on busses, or argue with Uhaul over broken down trucks. It only kicks ass about 5% of the time (especially considering the labels are the only ones making money).

I think you mean Justin Bieber. His life kicks ass 100% of time. Until he hits puberty and his voice changes.

[Seally]

BigLaw pros: - Decent/Good salary in most cases.
- Better Benefit/Retirement Packages than Investment Banking, comparable to Consulting.
- Better chance to make Partner than Investment Banking.
- Fairly good exit opportunities, you can move go Consulting/Investment Banking/In-house/
BigGov with useful assets.
- Most of the time, actual Partners knowing you won't make Partner usually give you
useful contacts and help to get decent jobs once you leave BigLaw.

cons: - Shit hours but less harsh than what Investment Bankers have to go through.
- Nature of work is far more boring than Consulting/Invesment Banking.
- In your first years, you will lack contact with pretty much everyone within the firm.
- Secretaries, Paralegals and other support staff do have an impact on a
decision wether to make an Associate go Partner or tell him to leave.


Hope it helps guys.

Oh my god are you kidding? Biglaw consists of even more dreadful, tedious, mechanical, absolute boring work than IB? I thought IB was the king of boredom and trumps all fields in term of absolute meaningless and random work?

Does anyone else agree that biglaw work is worse than IB? Can you please give me an example: what do you do in biglaw? Just review cases, prepare endless drafts, over and over again?

What field then is very lucrative coming out, yet very fun and not tedious or mind-boggling?

BigLaw's junior attorneys often do boring work such as correcting contracts, research, reading documents, print and deliver, help making contracts, get coffee, get burgers, watch the Partner's ass, make wills etc...

BigLaw's Senior Attorneys(A few years before making Partner) often do Contracts, talk to clients a bit, go to important meetings, work closer to Partners, make sure junior associates don't screw up, research, a bit more stimulating work and more action at that level.

BigLaw's Partners often get clients, talk to clients, get deals done, make sure Associates do the job right and on time, do the firm's administrative paperwork, select Associates for Partnership track(Only Senior Partners can do this), etc, hours are fucking long but salary is often fucking high if you don't screw up.


IB Analysts often work with Excel spreadsheets, write macros in VBA, track and generate weekly newsletters (weeklies), keep schedules, generate prospectuses, get burgers, put in and retrieve pitch books from the copy center and answer client phone calls + deal with shittier hours.

IB Associates often do DCF valuations, use Excel in their sleep, arrange client meetings and get the logistics right, deal with horrendous egos, find comparable companies etc. Less tedious work but still long hours.

IB VPs/MDs often do just like BigLaw Partners, get clients, talk to clients, travel in unexpected cadence etc, money is raining just like BigLaw Partners but they face way more pressure due to more unstable market and the amount of risks that have to take just to ensure their survival.

All pay well, very well, each got their pros and cons, decide for yourself.




At least in BigLaw you won't have to deal with 120 hours/weeks and Partners(VPs, MDs in IB) won't call you in the middle of a Macro in VBA because they want you to clean the toilet or deal with his daughter's PMS problems so he can go surf on the Internet a bit and then DISS/SHIT/PISS on you for not finishing your Macro in VBA.

Believe it or not, but i'd prefer a 80-100 hours/week job with "boring" work instead of Investment Banking(Unless i get recruited straight to Associate, not Analyst), in fact, i'd rather cut my balls off instead of being a fucking Analyst spending 90% of his time doing work unrelated to Finance.

The money/Prestige is what's pushing us to do this no ? So be it, even though i know IB pays more down the road, BigLaw stays a lot less risky and offers a beyond-expectation salary.

[bilbobaggins]

I don't understand why you wouldn't simply get an MBA instead of a JD if all you want is a job in the business world (and not any legal job)? I mean business school is called business school for a reason: it gets you a job in the business world. Law school is called law school for a reason: it is supposed to get you a job as a lawyer (and not as a consultant or I-banker). The mere fact that there are a few exceptions out there that get jobs as consultants or I-bankers after going to law school still doesn't make it a good idea to go to law school when you don't want to practice law, even if you got a scholarship.

Because B-Schools actually have math requirements for their UG programs, so the only way out to some students is to do Law and then switch.

So you can't handle fairly simple UG level math, but you think you're going to get a job at McKinsey or a large I-bank?

Good luck with that plan. You're going to need it.

At least coming out of UG, you need to be able to pass a business math test during your first round to even continue in the interview process.

[LSHopeful2]

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[megaTTTron]

Wow, it sure-as-fuck seems to be the case then that biglaw and IB are fields of constant boredom and tenuous shit, no doubt (to each their own, though, i just can't fathom a soulless android working type of industry where we are spitting more out just to work clients). With atrocious hours and ridiculously asinine work (preparing shit, editing drafts, delivering burgers, looking up macros), it seems to me there needs to be more to life than just this.

How can this type of UNREWARDING SHIT offer huge amounts of money? Seally as you described it, those two professions seem absolutely waning.

Can actually meaningful/invaluable work, such as joining the FBI or CIA, offer a lot of money as well? At least in these jobs you feel good about a cause, rather than mechanical work that serves no purpose and genuine task other than to succumb to and perpetuate the problem of greed, desire, bonus incentives, recruiting more clients, yadda yadda yadda.

What is meaningful out there? Don't worry we're not trying to be Gandhi but what meaningful work exists where you can work for a cause that is in harmony with the moral high ground and not constant greed and judgment which is INTRINSIC in the Wall street or Biglaw character?
Anything that diminishes the stature of a human being created by corporate America ultimately diminishes that human to fit a paradigm, hedged on illegitimate caprice and an envy to destroy others.

This type of work is definitely not holy.

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[Seally]

Wow, it sure-as-fuck seems to be the case then that biglaw and IB are fields of constant boredom and tenuous shit, no doubt (to each their own, though, i just can't fathom a soulless android working type of industry where we are spitting more out just to work clients). With atrocious hours and ridiculously asinine work (preparing shit, editing drafts, delivering burgers, looking up macros), it seems to me there needs to be more to life than just this.

How can this type of UNREWARDING SHIT offer huge amounts of money? Seally as you described it, those two professions seem absolutely waning.

Can actually meaningful/invaluable work, such as joining the FBI or CIA, offer a lot of money as well? At least in these jobs you feel good about a cause, rather than mechanical work that serves no purpose and genuine task other than to succumb to and perpetuate the problem of greed, desire, bonus incentives, recruiting more clients, yadda yadda yadda.

What is meaningful out there? Don't worry we're not trying to be Gandhi but what meaningful work exists where you can work for a cause that is in harmony with the moral high ground and not constant greed and judgment which is INTRINSIC in the Wall street or Biglaw character?
Anything that diminishes the stature of a human being created by corporate America ultimately diminishes that human to fit a paradigm, hedged on illegitimate caprice and an envy to destroy others.

This type of work is definitely not holy.

I know that FBI looks at Lawyers/Accountants for lots of positions, simply because their knowledge is useful, but don't get your hopes too high, in America, every position that Lawyers can get is competitive, except Starbucks, of course.

Lawyers have analytical skills, useful for research and can use the tricks they learned in Law School to talk to suspects/families, investigate at a higher level etc...

Accountants know the numbers, FBI is looking for them for Anti-Fraud Section positions, they can spot irregularities in all Financial aspects of a company/Group/Person and then let Lawyers/Other personnal investigate to come to a conclusion.

So if you have the credentials to enter BigLaw, you can try out for FBI, but if i was you, i'd take BigLaw simply because i want to pay back my loans and start SAVING for retirement.

There's a lot of non-fulfilling/boring-as-fuck jobs out there, just look at 85% of Medical Specialties, they are underpaid most of the time, offer irregular hours, no time for family and most of them will push you into suicide because you will do much more paperwork than actually "help" patients (Ex: Internal Med, Endo, Rhumato, Pneumo, Pediatrics, Gen.Surgery, Cardiac Surgery, just to name a few)

Or even Accounting, where you spend your days sit in a cubicle and do the most boring job ever, you will be discouraged more than once when you will have the pay charts in your hands and see that the guys who did Finance or Law instead of accounting make three times your salary...


Oh, and FBI doesn't pay a fraction of what BigLaw/IB pays, so if you want good pay AND passion, none is good for you.

[Jessep]

Wow, it sure-as-fuck seems to be the case then that biglaw and IB are fields of constant boredom and tenuous shit, no doubt (to each their own, though, i just can't fathom a soulless android working type of industry where we are spitting more out just to work clients). With atrocious hours and ridiculously asinine work (preparing shit, editing drafts, delivering burgers, looking up macros), it seems to me there needs to be more to life than just this.

How can this type of UNREWARDING SHIT offer huge amounts of money? Seally as you described it, those two professions seem absolutely waning.

Can actually meaningful/invaluable work, such as joining the FBI or CIA, offer a lot of money as well? At least in these jobs you feel good about a cause, rather than mechanical work that serves no purpose and genuine task other than to succumb to and perpetuate the problem of greed, desire, bonus incentives, recruiting more clients, yadda yadda yadda.

What is meaningful out there? Don't worry we're not trying to be Gandhi but what meaningful work exists where you can work for a cause that is in harmony with the moral high ground and not constant greed and judgment which is INTRINSIC in the Wall street or Biglaw character?
Anything that diminishes the stature of a human being created by corporate America ultimately diminishes that human to fit a paradigm, hedged on illegitimate caprice and an envy to destroy others.

This type of work is definitely not holy.

Depends on your outlook on life. If you aren't a douche who loves to take the moral high-ground, believes corporations are out to get America and the government was responsible for 9/11, you can find fulfillment and feel good about working in big law. As one example, the sale of closely held corporation might be one of the most pivotal moments in the seller's life. They worked years building a company and are finally cashing in for retirement/philanthropic purposes/their children's educations/their children's future (buying them a house, paying off their student debt). By doing your job well, you ensure there are no mistakes or screw-ups that could significantly reduce their take-away or botch the deal. Someone isn't evil just because they have money.

[ToTransferOrNot]

Wow, it sure-as-fuck seems to be the case then that biglaw and IB are fields of constant boredom and tenuous shit, no doubt (to each their own, though, i just can't fathom a soulless android working type of industry where we are spitting more out just to work clients). With atrocious hours and ridiculously asinine work (preparing shit, editing drafts, delivering burgers, looking up macros), it seems to me there needs to be more to life than just this.

How can this type of UNREWARDING SHIT offer huge amounts of money? Seally as you described it, those two professions seem absolutely waning.

Can actually meaningful/invaluable work, such as joining the FBI or CIA, offer a lot of money as well? At least in these jobs you feel good about a cause, rather than mechanical work that serves no purpose and genuine task other than to succumb to and perpetuate the problem of greed, desire, bonus incentives, recruiting more clients, yadda yadda yadda.

What is meaningful out there? Don't worry we're not trying to be Gandhi but what meaningful work exists where you can work for a cause that is in harmony with the moral high ground and not constant greed and judgment which is INTRINSIC in the Wall street or Biglaw character?
Anything that diminishes the stature of a human being created by corporate America ultimately diminishes that human to fit a paradigm, hedged on illegitimate caprice and an envy to destroy others.

This type of work is definitely not holy.

Words cannot express my absolute contempt for your existence or the depth of your dumbfuckery.

[Blindmelon]

Wow, it sure-as-fuck seems to be the case then that biglaw and IB are fields of constant boredom and tenuous shit, no doubt (to each their own, though, i just can't fathom a soulless android working type of industry where we are spitting more out just to work clients). With atrocious hours and ridiculously asinine work (preparing shit, editing drafts, delivering burgers, looking up macros), it seems to me there needs to be more to life than just this.

How can this type of UNREWARDING SHIT offer huge amounts of money? Seally as you described it, those two professions seem absolutely waning.

Can actually meaningful/invaluable work, such as joining the FBI or CIA, offer a lot of money as well? At least in these jobs you feel good about a cause, rather than mechanical work that serves no purpose and genuine task other than to succumb to and perpetuate the problem of greed, desire, bonus incentives, recruiting more clients, yadda yadda yadda.

What is meaningful out there? Don't worry we're not trying to be Gandhi but what meaningful work exists where you can work for a cause that is in harmony with the moral high ground and not constant greed and judgment which is INTRINSIC in the Wall street or Biglaw character?
Anything that diminishes the stature of a human being created by corporate America ultimately diminishes that human to fit a paradigm, hedged on illegitimate caprice and an envy to destroy others.

This type of work is definitely not holy.

Words cannot express my absolute contempt for your existence or the depth of your dumbfuckery.

I don't get involved in the shit-flinging on these boards much, but geez man . . . that almost made my brain bleed - and I 'm always the first one to rant about corporate America... but this... well, 'nuff said.

[LSHopeful2]

Bannable offense by Totransfer, reported. If he had thought about the post, he might have known it was intended to stir up a joke and go against the flow. Sadly, for him, thinking is too hard to do, and given the nature of his comments, he definitely is an atheist and has no moral compass.

[Renzo]

Bannable offense by Totransfer, reported. If he had thought about the post, he might have known it was intended to stir up a joke and go against the flow. Sadly, for him, thinking is too hard to do, and given the nature of his comments, he definitely is an atheist and has no moral compass.

What a pity for him.

Is English your first language? I have the nauseating suspicion that it is, in which case.....

[LSHopeful2]

^Yes it is. If there are grammatical errors or sentence structure issues then please point them out. At least I'm willing to see what you have to say, as they mold you in ls to become a grammar nazi I assume, which can be good I guess.

And regarding the post, if you thought I was remotely serious about "corporate America" with the lengthy and pretentious statement I gave, then that's your thought.

Obviously, I was intending to be a little jocular in my comment to generate a few laughs and what not, without recourse to insulting anyone. We all know the job industry in this field is piercing and it's going to be tedious and repetitive, so I was just spitting out a joke. One fellow though took this way out of line.

[FlightoftheEarls]

And regarding the post, if you thought I was remotely serious about "corporate America" with the lengthy and pretentious statement I gave, then that's your thought.

Ahhhhh, so that's how that works?

[LSHopeful2]

^lol, nice catch. Was kind of in a rush when writing that down, but 'belief' would have to replace "thought" the second time.

[Jessep]

^Yes it is. If there are grammatical errors or sentence structure issues then please point them out. At least I'm willing to see what you have to say, as they mold you in ls to become a grammar nazi I assume, which can be good I guess.

And regarding the post, if you thought I was remotely serious about "corporate America" with the lengthy and pretentious statement I gave, then that's your thought.

Obviously, I was intending to be a little jocular in my comment to generate a few laughs and what not, without recourse to insulting anyone. We all know the job industry in this field is piercing and it's going to be tedious and repetitive, so I was just spitting out a joke. One fellow though took this way out of line.

You're a weird guy, Ace. Weird guy.

[XxSpyKEx]

Wow, it sure-as-fuck seems to be the case then that biglaw and IB are fields of constant boredom and tenuous shit, no doubt (to each their own, though, i just can't fathom a soulless android working type of industry where we are spitting more out just to work clients). With atrocious hours and ridiculously asinine work (preparing shit, editing drafts, delivering burgers, looking up macros), it seems to me there needs to be more to life than just this.

How can this type of UNREWARDING SHIT offer huge amounts of money? Seally as you described it, those two professions seem absolutely waning.

Can actually meaningful/invaluable work, such as joining the FBI or CIA, offer a lot of money as well? At least in these jobs you feel good about a cause, rather than mechanical work that serves no purpose and genuine task other than to succumb to and perpetuate the problem of greed, desire, bonus incentives, recruiting more clients, yadda yadda yadda.

What is meaningful out there? Don't worry we're not trying to be Gandhi but what meaningful work exists where you can work for a cause that is in harmony with the moral high ground and not constant greed and judgment which is INTRINSIC in the Wall street or Biglaw character?
Anything that diminishes the stature of a human being created by corporate America ultimately diminishes that human to fit a paradigm, hedged on illegitimate caprice and an envy to destroy others.

This type of work is definitely not holy.

Words cannot express my absolute contempt for your existence or the depth of your dumbfuckery.

+1.

[chrisbru]

Are JD/MBA's more likely to get a consulting job than JD only? How easy is it to get one of these jobs?