Huge Difference between LSAC GPA and UGPA Forum

[akrepaki]

Hi everyone,

I know differences between LSAC GPA and UGPA are common, however in my case the disparity is enormous. My GPA from community college is 3.6 and from my 4-year college is 3.97. However, I have "a few" F's for repeated courses from my community college that my college didn't include in my GPA calculation, but LSAC will. If my calculations are correct, those F's will plummet my LSAC GPA to 2.9.

I know that law schools care about the LSAC GPA, but I wonder how such a disparity will be evaluated by schools. Do most schools even notice such a difference or is the LSAC GPA the only number they look at besides the LSAT score?

I'm shooting for a good score of 170+ to have a chance at a good tier 2 school. Do you think this is a realistic expectation or is the 2.9 GPA too difficult to overcome even with a very good LSAT score?

I am also an ESL student. Do you think this is something that will be evaluated favorably or negatively during the admission process? Kinda a separate question, but I would like to hear your thoughts on that as well.

thanks.

[crazywafflez]

If you have sub-3.0 things are dicey, but not impossible at even T1 schools. I think you could easily get into a place like Ole Miss, perhaps with a good scholarship, with a 2.9/168 or U of KY or Denver. I would only go there on a decent scholarship knowing I wanted to stay in Mississippi (or whatever state you went to school in), but that will be a question for later down the road. If you are happy with local government work, small firm work, or other kinds of local PI, I think your state T2 will be a fine choice. I also think a super high LSAT will offset that- make sure to really put in your app though why you want to be there etc. I will say though to apply to the T1/2 in the region you want, and if you do get a super high score, apply to some splitter friendly T20/T14 schools. WashU comes to mind, but there may be others. I did a quick scan on mylsn with 168-172 scores, and 2.9-3.0 GPAs, and quite a few folks did get into WashU with some money. https://mylsn.info/gm1upe/
Best of luck.

[Dcc617]

Hi everyone,

I know differences between LSAC GPA and UGPA are common, however in my case the disparity is enormous. My GPA from community college is 3.6 and from my 4-year college is 3.97. However, I have "a few" F's for repeated courses from my community college that my college didn't include in my GPA calculation, but LSAC will. If my calculations are correct, those F's will plummet my LSAC GPA to 2.9.

I know that law schools care about the LSAC GPA, but I wonder how such a disparity will be evaluated by schools. Do most schools even notice such a difference or is the LSAC GPA the only number they look at besides the LSAT score?

I'm shooting for a good score of 170+ to have a chance at a good tier 2 school. Do you think this is a realistic expectation or is the 2.9 GPA too difficult to overcome even with a very good LSAT score?

I am also an ESL student. Do you think this is something that will be evaluated favorably or negatively during the admission process? Kinda a separate question, but I would like to hear your thoughts on that as well.

thanks.

Do the Fs show up on your transcript? If not I don’t think they count for LSAC.

[CanadianWolf]

Regardless of your LSAC GPA--which is the only GPA of concern to law school admissions personnel--you need to have an actual LSAT score in order to fully assess your situation.