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Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by lmalone27 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:56 am

My son is going to choose one-my question is will graduating from Georgetown make a marked difference in opportunities to get a job in Big Law?

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by cavalier1138 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 5:59 am

If this isn't your son, then your son can probably read the thread for himself or join in there. If it is your son, then this is a weird follow-up thread, mom/dad.

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by BobBoblaw » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:31 am

To answer your question, NW placed 62% of graduates into biglaw jobs last year, while WUSTL placed 28%, so less than half the rate.

You can further explore employment data here:

https://www.lstreports.com/schools/washu/jobs/

https://www.lstreports.com/schools/northwestern/jobs/

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by UVA2B » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:47 am

BobBoblaw wrote:To answer your question, NW placed 62% of graduates into biglaw jobs last year, while WUSTL placed 28%, so less than half the rate.

You can further explore employment data here:

https://www.lstreports.com/schools/washu/jobs/

https://www.lstreports.com/schools/northwestern/jobs/
Why are you bringing up Northwestern?

OP, if the rumors about WUSTL jumping up their Biglaw+Art. III clerkship rate to 44% are true, then there is a marginal difference in desirable outcomes between the two schools.

There are certainly more questions you should ask (what is the difference in cost, where does your son want to work, what type of law does he want to practice immediately come to mind) before deciding on either option.

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by Rigo » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:17 am

UVA2B wrote: OP, if the rumors about WUSTL jumping up their Biglaw+Art. III clerkship rate to 44% are true, then there is a marginal difference in desirable outcomes between the two schools.
Even if this is true, Georgetown could have improved its numbers too.
All things equal, I'd to Georgetown. I do think there is some self-selection into PI/gov at Georgetown oo suppresses their Biglaw numbers a bit.

It really depends on the cost difference.

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by UVA2B » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:21 am

Rigo wrote:
UVA2B wrote: OP, if the rumors about WUSTL jumping up their Biglaw+Art. III clerkship rate to 44% are true, then there is a marginal difference in desirable outcomes between the two schools.
Even if this is true, Georgetown could have improved its numbers too.
All things equal, I'd to Georgetown. I do think there is some self-selection into PI/gov at Georgetown oo suppresses their Biglaw numbers a bit.

It really depends on the cost difference.
Substantially agree, but even if GULC improved to 50% for BL+Art. III, I'd call that a marginal difference. That's all just semantics that should mostly be ignored, because both our points are (mostly) the same. Cost is the real differentiator here, not simply likelihood of outcome.

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Post by BobBoblaw » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:26 am

UVA2B wrote:
Why are you bringing up Northwestern?
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Haha, ooooops.... :oops: :oops: :lol:

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by PeanutsNJam » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:50 am

Depends on cost. Georgetown is worth maybe $50k more total over 3 years. Keep in mind cost of living in stl is way lower than D.C.

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by lmalone27 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 1:58 pm

cavalier1138 wrote:If this isn't your son, then your son can probably read the thread for himself or join in there. If it is your son, then this is a weird follow-up thread, mom/dad.
cavalier1138 wrote:If this isn't your son, then your son can probably read the thread for himself or join in there. If it is your son, then this is a weird follow-up thread, mom/dad.[/quote
I hadn't realized that my son posted here and parents want as much information as possible when giving advice when their son/daughter are making a decision like this.

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by Rigo » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:01 pm

Cute.

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by lmalone27 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:06 pm

lmalone27 wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:If this isn't your son, then your son can probably read the thread for himself or join in there. If it is your son, then this is a weird follow-up thread, mom/dad.
cavalier1138 wrote:If this isn't your son, then your son can probably read the thread for himself or join in there. If it is your son, then this is a weird follow-up thread, mom/dad.[/quote
I hadn't realized that my son posted here and parents want as much information as possible when giving advice when their son/daughter is making a decision like this.
Rigo wrote:
UVA2B wrote: OP, if the rumors about WUSTL jumping up their Biglaw+Art. III clerkship rate to 44% are true, then there is a marginal difference in desirable outcomes between the two schools.
Even if this is true, Georgetown could have improved its numbers too.
All things equal, I'd to Georgetown. I do think there is some self-selection into PI/gov at Georgetown oo suppresses their Biglaw numbers a bit.

It really depends on the cost difference.
Thank you for your input- if cost is the only consideration, the cost of living is so high in D.C. so he would have to get substantially more in scholarship in order to justify choosing Georgetown. Thanks again!

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by lmalone27 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:10 pm

UVA2B wrote:
Rigo wrote:
UVA2B wrote: OP, if the rumors about WUSTL jumping up their Biglaw+Art. III clerkship rate to 44% are true, then there is a marginal difference in desirable outcomes between the two schools.
Even if this is true, Georgetown could have improved its numbers too.
All things equal, I'd to Georgetown. I do think there is some self-selection into PI/gov at Georgetown oo suppresses their Biglaw numbers a bit.

It really depends on the cost difference.
Substantially agree, but even if GULC improved to 50% for BL+Art. III, I'd call that a marginal difference. That's all just semantics that should mostly be ignored, because both our points are (mostly) the same. Cost is the real differentiator here, not simply likelihood of outcome.
Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.

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Post by Rigo » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:12 pm

PeanutsNJam wrote:Depends on cost. Georgetown is worth maybe $50k more total over 3 years. Keep in mind cost of living in stl is way lower than D.C.
I think this is a valuable opinion considering the source.

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Post by lymenheimer » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:26 pm

Counter point: your son is going to be worse off living under your thumb of helicopter-advice rather than finding it on his own, which he has. Tell him where to look and let him build his bridge.


Alternatively: go be a troll somewhere else.

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Did you write his personal statement too?

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Post by cavalier1138 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:45 pm

lmalone27 wrote:Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.
Looks like your son was doing just fine on his own so far...

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Post by lmalone27 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:00 pm

cavalier1138 wrote:
lmalone27 wrote:Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.
Looks like your son was doing just fine on his own so far...
He always does!

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:06 pm

lmalone27 wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:
lmalone27 wrote:Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.
Looks like your son was doing just fine on his own so far...
He always does!
Then...I think it's fair to say he can solicit his own advice on TLS (which he did). :roll:

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by lmalone27 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:41 pm

Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:
lmalone27 wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:
lmalone27 wrote:Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.
Looks like your son was doing just fine on his own so far...
He always does!
Then...I think it's fair to say he can solicit his own advice on TLS (which he did). :roll:
Sorry if my post upset you- enjoy your evening.

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Re: Georgetown or Wash U in St. Louis?

Post by Thomas Hagan, ESQ. » Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:42 pm

lmalone27 wrote:
Thomas Hagan, ESQ. wrote:
lmalone27 wrote:
cavalier1138 wrote:
lmalone27 wrote:Thank you- these posts are so helpful and as a parent I'd like as much information as possible.
Looks like your son was doing just fine on his own so far...
He always does!
Then...I think it's fair to say he can solicit his own advice on TLS (which he did). :roll:
Sorry if my post upset you- enjoy your evening.
Thanks, to you as well!

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