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Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by lplaw » Tue May 24, 2016 7:14 pm

Hey Guys,

Do any of you know or would mind sharing what stipulations there are to maintain a scholarship to your given school? Are we talking about a grade based scholly or a class rank type of deal? To me this site seems to base alot of decisions of where to go, and rightfully so, on how much money you can get. I believe the general consensus to avoid sticker price is correct for all but maybe T6?

So if this is the case, are the stipulations for maintaining that scholarship something that we should also factor in come decision time? Anyone have an estimation on the percentage of scholarships lost per year? Seems to me that most schools would give you a ton of money but make it incentive laced, maybe to a point where it would be highly improbable for you to maintain it for all 3 years.

What do you do then if you lose the scholarship? Advisable to push through by loan or bail?

Thanks.

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Re: Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by stego » Tue May 24, 2016 7:21 pm

lplaw wrote:Hey Guys,

Do any of you know or would mind sharing what stipulations there are to maintain a scholarship to your given school? Are we talking about a grade based scholly or a class rank type of deal? To me this site seems to base alot of decisions of where to go, and rightfully so, on how much money you can get. I believe the general consensus to avoid sticker price is correct for all but maybe T6?

So if this is the case, are the stipulations for maintaining that scholarship something that we should also factor in come decision time? Anyone have an estimation on the percentage of scholarships lost per year? Seems to me that most schools would give you a ton of money but make it incentive laced, maybe to a point where it would be highly improbable for you to maintain it for all 3 years.

What do you do then if you lose the scholarship? Advisable to push through by loan or bail?

Thanks.
Absolutely stipulations matter. That's why people on this board advocate negotiating with a school to have stips removed before you agree to go there. Everybody thinks they'll be in the top half of the class but half of the people won't be.

The only stipulation that is acceptable IMO is that you remain in good academic standing.

IDK what people who have their scholarships taken away do. Probably either drop out or take out loans. If their scholly got taken away they won't have the grades needed to transfer.

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Re: Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by Nachoo2019 » Tue May 24, 2016 7:34 pm

Simple. Schools that require anything more than "good academic standing" are schools you should not attend.

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Post by lymenheimer » Tue May 24, 2016 7:35 pm

Pretty sure the schools report how many students lose their scholarships. Also, generally speaking, only the lower ranked schools give stipulations outside of "good academic standing" or its equivalent.

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Re: Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by lplaw » Tue May 24, 2016 8:15 pm

Sorry for the naive question here, but what is good academic standing for law schools? Anything but failing grades?

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Re: Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by stego » Tue May 24, 2016 8:25 pm

lplaw wrote:Sorry for the naive question here, but what is good academic standing for law schools? Anything but failing grades?
Not sure if it's the basically the same for every school and too lazy to check but I think it might be something like a 2.5 cumulative GPA. I think it's difficult to fail out of law school (especially from a good law school - dumpster fires have more incentive to fail out strugglers because they don't want their graduates to fail the bar) but failing out can be possible without actually failing classes. The specific policy will be covered in the school's student handbook.

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Re: Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by olivia_nope » Thu May 26, 2016 9:27 am

I wish I would've seen this a year ago. SMH
Nachoo2019 wrote:Simple. Schools that require anything more than "good academic standing" are schools you should not attend.

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Re: Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by pancakes3 » Thu May 26, 2016 9:35 am

It helps to think of scholarships not as the school giving you money but permitting you to pay them less money.

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Re: Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by jbagelboy » Thu May 26, 2016 10:55 am

Nachoo2019 wrote:Simple. Schools that require anything more than "good academic standing" are schools you should not attend.

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Re: Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by emkay625 » Thu May 26, 2016 10:59 am

lplaw wrote:Hey Guys,

Do any of you know or would mind sharing what stipulations there are to maintain a scholarship to your given school? Are we talking about a grade based scholly or a class rank type of deal? To me this site seems to base alot of decisions of where to go, and rightfully so, on how much money you can get. I believe the general consensus to avoid sticker price is correct for all but maybe T6?

So if this is the case, are the stipulations for maintaining that scholarship something that we should also factor in come decision time? Anyone have an estimation on the percentage of scholarships lost per year? Seems to me that most schools would give you a ton of money but make it incentive laced, maybe to a point where it would be highly improbable for you to maintain it for all 3 years.

What do you do then if you lose the scholarship? Advisable to push through by loan or bail?

Thanks.
The number of students who lose their scholarship each year is included on the ABA disclosure form that each school must have published on their web site. If you share which schools you are considering, I'm happy to send you a link.

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Re: Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by emkay625 » Thu May 26, 2016 11:00 am

stego wrote:
lplaw wrote:Sorry for the naive question here, but what is good academic standing for law schools? Anything but failing grades?
Not sure if it's the basically the same for every school and too lazy to check but I think it might be something like a 2.5 cumulative GPA. I think it's difficult to fail out of law school (especially from a good law school - dumpster fires have more incentive to fail out strugglers because they don't want their graduates to fail the bar) but failing out can be possible without actually failing classes. The specific policy will be covered in the school's student handbook.
I believe it's actually 2.0 for the majority of schools.

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Re: Stipulations to maintain scholarship?

Post by Nachoo2019 » Thu May 26, 2016 11:09 am

emkay625 wrote:
stego wrote:
lplaw wrote:Sorry for the naive question here, but what is good academic standing for law schools? Anything but failing grades?
Not sure if it's the basically the same for every school and too lazy to check but I think it might be something like a 2.5 cumulative GPA. I think it's difficult to fail out of law school (especially from a good law school - dumpster fires have more incentive to fail out strugglers because they don't want their graduates to fail the bar) but failing out can be possible without actually failing classes. The specific policy will be covered in the school's student handbook.
I believe it's actually 2.0 for the majority of schools.

Yeah I think you are right. At least the school I'm going to in the fall is 2.0. Essentially one would have to fail out to lose their scholarship, which would be difficult to do.

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