Campbell law drops 22 spots in US News rankings is anyone still applying here and why Forum

[jdcumlaude]

Disappointed graduate here. I just do not see a happy end to this. I worry that my degree will eventually be from a defunct law school.

My question is; Why apply to this school? The numbers do not add up. What is the motivation? I thought I would be able to make a living practicing law, and on the occasion that I have the opportunity I greatly enjoy it. However, their is simply not a market for new attorney's in NC. Are people being mislead, is this "snowflake" millennial syndrome?...I am truly at a loss.

121 in 2016 numbers....143 for 2017

[Biglaw1990]

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[TLSDookie]

This is the case for regional schools everywhere, not just NC. The drop in rankings is a meaningless distinction, if you went to a TTT or lower school and expected your degree to have any marketability whatsoever outside of hyper-regional connections (i.e. in your case the immediate surrounding Raleigh area that can't fill their positions from UNC/WF) you were misled. You're just now realizing there is a huge over-saturation of law schools to meaningful law employment, that these school deliberately mislead applicants into thinking there is value in attending their school in order to fill their classes, and most of them should probably be de-certified.

[HangingAround]

they sure know how to spin it. Issued a press release called "Campbell law returns to top tier in latest U.S. News ranking."

[fliptrip]

Disappointed graduate here. I just do not see a happy end to this. I worry that my degree will eventually be from a defunct law school.

My question is; Why apply to this school? The numbers do not add up. What is the motivation? I thought I would be able to make a living practicing law, and on the occasion that I have the opportunity I greatly enjoy it. However, their is simply not a market for new attorney's in NC. Are people being mislead, is this "snowflake" millennial syndrome?...I am truly at a loss.

121 in 2016 numbers....143 for 2017

Sorry, OP. I really hope you can figure out a way to make it work so that this is not a completely disastrous situation for you. To your questions:

Why apply to this school?

Because a lot of people are misinformed and think a law degree is a guaranteed ticket to upper middle class living.

Are people being mislead, is this "snowflake" millennial syndrome?

Yes, I think people are being misled. Campbell Law's website talks extensively about the inputs to people's education and very little about the outputs. I spent 3 minutes on the website and I learned that they are the #8 value in private legal education according to the National Jurist (?), they've hired two new faculty members, and they've made an agreement with some Chinese University to make Campbell more "global". For the misinformed, all of these things could seem to burnish the quality of the school and make it a more reasonable place to drop $200k. They don't prominently advertise, however that only a little over half of their graduates are working as lawyers and that almost half of them are really just pairing up and hanging a shingle more than likely.

It is absolutely not the case that NC's market has no demand for new lawyers. A Duke grad who wanted to stick around wouldn't have much trouble. The problem is that the state's demand does not go deep enough to support all of the law schools operating in the state. If you oversupply a market, trouble soon follows.

[haus]

There is no difference between 121 and 143

[bruceaquizzer1]

I applied. Not with the intention of going, but just to satisfy my dad's begging lol

[jdcumlaude]

The Chinese thing really bothers me. I feel like they are literally going anywhere to fill up desk space. This school is such a sad situation.

[eagle2a]

Even if they had gone up 22 spots their degree would be worthless

[jdcumlaude]

Even if they had gone up 22 spots their degree would be worthless

Totally agree

[THSmith]

Even if they had gone up 22 spots their degree would be worthless

I dodged a bullet. Decided not to go here even with a scholarship (albeit a small one). I say dodged a bullet because some friends chose to attend and from what I hear there is a slight panic among the staff about bad job numbers being released soon. Apparently some staff have been leaving/retiring. The perception being that they are jumping from a sinking ship. This is all second hand of course.