Early decision to northwestern, grants negotiating? Forum

[sarahpp99]

I understand that Ed in NU comes with a 150k scholarship, but that's not a full tuition, about 24k short. Could I negotiate for the 24k?

[Chrstgtr]

I don't see how that would be possible. You would have to sign a binding agreement to attend NU. Moreover, I have not heard of anyone receiving a scholarship greater than 150K at NU. I don't know if this works the same at other schools or if other school's scholarship offers promise "no tuition" because even if a school offers the current tuition x 3, the tuition will likely rise and leave those students on "full-rides" paying some out of pocket.

If it makes you feel any better, the COL estimate at NU is greatly overestimated and NU's president announced that we would see an "appreciable net decrease in the amount we pay for tuition" at Northwestern Law's renaming ceremony.

With regard to your implied question of whether or not you should apply to NU ED, I would strongly recommend it unless you are not actually interested in going to NU or you legitimately have T14 full-ride numbers (look beyond NU on MyLSN because many of those NU full-rides are probably EDs). If you do have T14 full-ride numbers then you have a decent shot of getting a full-ride from NU later in the cycle, as they are generally one of the more generous. If you don't have full-ride numbers then an NU ED admit is the best you are going to get so you might as well go for it.

[sarahpp99]

I don't see how that would be possible. You would have to sign a binding agreement to attend NU. Moreover, I have not heard of anyone receiving a scholarship greater than 150K at NU. I don't know if this works the same at other schools or if other school's scholarship offers promise "no tuition" because even if a school offers the current tuition x 3, the tuition will likely rise and leave those students on "full-rides" paying some out of pocket.

If it makes you feel any better, the COL estimate at NU is greatly overestimated and NU's president announced that we would see an "appreciable net decrease in the amount we pay for tuition" at Northwestern Law's renaming ceremony.

With regard to your implied question of whether or not you should apply to NU ED, I would strongly recommend it unless you are not actually interested in going to NU or you legitimately have T14 full-ride numbers (look beyond NU on MyLSN because many of those NU full-rides are probably EDs). If you do have T14 full-ride numbers then you have a decent shot of getting a full-ride from NU later in the cycle, as they are generally one of the more generous. If you don't have full-ride numbers then an NU ED admit is the best you are going to get so you might as well go for it.

Thank you for your generous response.

[lawyersHATEhim]

I don't see how that would be possible. You would have to sign a binding agreement to attend NU. Moreover, I have not heard of anyone receiving a scholarship greater than 150K at NU. I don't know if this works the same at other schools or if other school's scholarship offers promise "no tuition" because even if a school offers the current tuition x 3, the tuition will likely rise and leave those students on "full-rides" paying some out of pocket.

If it makes you feel any better, the COL estimate at NU is greatly overestimated and NU's president announced that we would see an "appreciable net decrease in the amount we pay for tuition" at Northwestern Law's renaming ceremony.

With regard to your implied question of whether or not you should apply to NU ED, I would strongly recommend it unless you are not actually interested in going to NU or you legitimately have T14 full-ride numbers (look beyond NU on MyLSN because many of those NU full-rides are probably EDs). If you do have T14 full-ride numbers then you have a decent shot of getting a full-ride from NU later in the cycle, as they are generally one of the more generous. If you don't have full-ride numbers then an NU ED admit is the best you are going to get so you might as well go for it.

What exactly are T-14 full ride numbers?

[Clemenceau]

I don't see how that would be possible. You would have to sign a binding agreement to attend NU. Moreover, I have not heard of anyone receiving a scholarship greater than 150K at NU. I don't know if this works the same at other schools or if other school's scholarship offers promise "no tuition" because even if a school offers the current tuition x 3, the tuition will likely rise and leave those students on "full-rides" paying some out of pocket.

If it makes you feel any better, the COL estimate at NU is greatly overestimated and NU's president announced that we would see an "appreciable net decrease in the amount we pay for tuition" at Northwestern Law's renaming ceremony.

With regard to your implied question of whether or not you should apply to NU ED, I would strongly recommend it unless you are not actually interested in going to NU or you legitimately have T14 full-ride numbers (look beyond NU on MyLSN because many of those NU full-rides are probably EDs). If you do have T14 full-ride numbers then you have a decent shot of getting a full-ride from NU later in the cycle, as they are generally one of the more generous. If you don't have full-ride numbers then an NU ED admit is the best you are going to get so you might as well go for it.

What exactly are T-14 full ride numbers?

Being over both of a given school's 75%s is a decent rule of thumb, assuming non-urm

[FloridaCoastalorbust]

I didn't ED but initially got 165k and then negotiated and ended up w/ 210k. Idk if you would be able to negotiate ED so if getting more than 150k is important don't ED.

[cc1012]

I don't see how that would be possible. You would have to sign a binding agreement to attend NU. Moreover, I have not heard of anyone receiving a scholarship greater than 150K at NU. I don't know if this works the same at other schools or if other school's scholarship offers promise "no tuition" because even if a school offers the current tuition x 3, the tuition will likely rise and leave those students on "full-rides" paying some out of pocket.

If it makes you feel any better, the COL estimate at NU is greatly overestimated and NU's president announced that we would see an "appreciable net decrease in the amount we pay for tuition" at Northwestern Law's renaming ceremony.

With regard to your implied question of whether or not you should apply to NU ED, I would strongly recommend it unless you are not actually interested in going to NU or you legitimately have T14 full-ride numbers (look beyond NU on MyLSN because many of those NU full-rides are probably EDs). If you do have T14 full-ride numbers then you have a decent shot of getting a full-ride from NU later in the cycle, as they are generally one of the more generous. If you don't have full-ride numbers then an NU ED admit is the best you are going to get so you might as well go for it.

What exactly are T-14 full ride numbers?

Being over both of a given school's 75%s is a decent rule of thumb, assuming non-urm

Is there a standard for URMs? It seems that many URMs have unpredictable cycles and softs are much more important.

[sarahpp99]

I didn't ED but initially got 165k and then negotiated and ended up w/ 210k. Idk if you would be able to negotiate ED so if getting more than 150k is important don't ED.

Thank you for your response from personal experience. I just wonder if they would hold an applicant's Ed status against them. From what I know, Michigan doesn't do that. I really hope NU wouldn't do that,either.

[Alpal29]

The only problem with negotiating, is that you're bound to go there, or not go anywhere this cycle. So they hold all the cards in the negotiations.

[Dog]

I didn't ED but initially got 165k and then negotiated and ended up w/ 210k. Idk if you would be able to negotiate ED so if getting more than 150k is important don't ED.

Thank you for your response from personal experience. I just wonder if they would hold an applicant's Ed status against them. From what I know, Michigan doesn't do that. I really hope NU wouldn't do that,either.

Former ED applicant (I go to NU now) here. I can't speak for the admissions office but I think NU would "hold" your ED status against you. It definitely disadvantages the scholarship chase at other schools when they know you are "bound" to choose them. You don't apply ED to Northwestern to get a scholarship offer in the bag, you do it to commit yourself upon receiving that offer. Of course, they can't force you to attend. They can however, let everyone else know you ED'd and demand that you withdraw your other apps.

If a full ride is important to you, that consideration should have been made prior to EDing.

Try it if you want, maybe they will be generous with the Priztker money.

[NUDad]

NU will most definitely not increase their scholarship offer at this point. They are very clear about this, if you read the Early Decision section of their website and their admissions blog. They even go as far as to say that you should NOT file an early decision if you desire a scholarship > $150K. I think asking for additional funds at this point will do nothing but create some irritation.

[Veil of Ignorance]

I didn't ED but initially got 165k and then negotiated and ended up w/ 210k. Idk if you would be able to negotiate ED so if getting more than 150k is important don't ED.

What were your numbers? I didn't know NU gave living stipends.

[A. Nony Mouse]

I didn't ED but initially got 165k and then negotiated and ended up w/ 210k. Idk if you would be able to negotiate ED so if getting more than 150k is important don't ED.

What were your numbers? I didn't know NU gave living stipends.

$210k over 3 years is $70k a year. According to their cost of attendance info, total COA is $84k+ and room and board is estimated at $14k+, which means $70k/year gets you money for everything *other than* living expenses.

(also this thread is 2 years old.)

[Veil of Ignorance]

I didn't ED but initially got 165k and then negotiated and ended up w/ 210k. Idk if you would be able to negotiate ED so if getting more than 150k is important don't ED.

What were your numbers? I didn't know NU gave living stipends.

$210k over 3 years is $70k a year. According to their cost of attendance info, total COA is $84k+ and room and board is estimated at $14k+, which means $70k/year gets you money for everything *other than* living expenses.

(also this thread is 2 years old.)

Oh, I didn't notice!