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scrowell · Post by **scrowell** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:46 pm

See title. This method worked for me. This thread will break down how to approach academic/professional life starting with college. Try it!

College

1. don't major in something stupid (a.k.a. liberal arts). Major in engineering/comp sci/business. These majors will make you more employable.
2. DON'T FOLLOW YOUR "PASSION". YOU WANT A JOB, DON'T U?
3. take the easiest classes in one of the above majors to inflate GPA-again, DON'T FOLLOW YOUR INTERESTS (unless they involve the above)

LSAT/LS Apps

1. don't worry too much about it. I didn't study much and managed to get mid-150s.
2. apply to schools where you'll be happy. if you like sunshine, try California or Florida or New Mexico
3. Consider going PT (this will make sense later).
4. go for as cheaply as possible to the best school you can. Don't be a prestige whore (ex. go to a TTT with good $ rather than a T1 with nothing).
5. don't do journals/clubs/etc. complete waste of time. do employers care if you wrote an article on some crap no one cares about? NO!

Law School

1. Congrats, you got in! Enjoy school!
2. 1L year: do some of the readings/HWs, but DO NOT do everything. It's a waste of time. Any "extra exam practice workshops" or whatever are totally stupid and pointless. I did fine and I just chilled with friends most of the time 1L year. You will too. Just memorize for the exams and you'll do great. Probably top 30-50%. And oh yeah, LOOK FOR A GOOD JOB.
3. Summer of 1L: WORK AT A GOOD LEGAL JOB. YOU MUST DO THIS. DO NOT GET AN UNPAID INTERNSHIP. THIS WILL SET A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. EMPLOYERS WILL SEE THAT YOU'LL WORK FOR FREE. DO NOT DO THIS. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH. I'd recommend trying to work for a corporation/paid law firm job. I personally worked in the legal/contracts dept at a mid sized company. Didn't make fat stacks, but made decent $$$.
4. 2L: take the easiest classes possible. AGAIN, DO NOT TAKE CLASSES YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. YOU WANT A JOB, DON'T YOU? THE HIGHER YOUR GPA, THE BETTER YOUR RESUME LOOKS TO EMPLOYERS. THEY DON'T CARE WHAT CLASSES YOU TOOK. also, KEEP WORKING AT THE COMPANY YOU'VE BEEN WORKING AT, OR POSSIBLY UPGRADE TO A BETTER ONE IF YOU CAN. Don't worry about school too much. work as many hours as you can to maximize income and work experience. You'll get good grades because you're taking easy classes. have fun! do whatever makes you happy! i like eating at taco bell and working out and watching movies and sports.
5. 3L: same thing as 2L. Upgrade job if possible. DON'T LISTEN TO ANYONE'S BAR STUDY PLANS (EXCEPT MINE, OF COURSE). DO WHAT I AM TELL YOU TO DO BELOW.

Bar Exam
1. study, BUT DO NOT QUIT YOUR JOB! DO YOU THINK EMPLOYERS CARE MORE IF YOU PASSED A TEST, OR IF YOU HAVE WORK EXPERIENCE? YEAH, THEY CARE IF YOU HAVE WORK EXPERIENCE, NOT IF YOU CAN PASS A TEST.
2. do some MBEs, memorize the law. DO NOT WASTE TIME WRITING PRACTICE ESSAYS OR PERFORMANCE TESTS.
3. do not take time off to study other than maybe the day before the exam. just study for an hour or 2 per day.
4. take the 3 days off to take the exam. go in confidently because you studied for 1-2 hours a day for like 2 months. that's a lot! probably more than you ever have for any test ever.
5. don't change ur routine too much. keep chiiling with friends and lifting and working out

post bar
1. keep working hard at the job you never quit. you've become irreplaceable at this point because you know the company/contracts/policies too well.
2. get your bar results-you'll pass. don't worry.
3. get promoted to corporate/compliance/commercial counsel. make more $/hour than big law try hards. you win.

this is my story. i now work at a F50 company in the legal dept and passed the CA bar on my first attempt. i'm glad i didn't listen to people on here who told me my 153 lsat and tt/ttt law school wasn't good enough.
GOOD LUCK. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY AND ALL QUESTIONS. I WANT YOU ALL TO SUCCEED.

Cogburn87 · Post by **Cogburn87** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:49 pm

This should be good.

Ron Don Volante · Post by **Ron Don Volante** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:50 pm

fats provolone · Post by **fats provolone** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:51 pm

going to law school seems like a fatal flaw in your plan

Manteca · Post by **Manteca** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:53 pm

scrowell · Post by **scrowell** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:54 pm

Ron Don Volante wrote:IBTL

this is sincere advice and my story. please don't lock.

scrowell · Post by **scrowell** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:54 pm

fats provolone wrote:going to law school seems like a fatal flaw in your plan

how so?

fats provolone · Post by **fats provolone** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:54 pm

scrowell wrote:
fats provolone wrote:going to law school seems like a fatal flaw in your plan
how so?

"succeed"

scrowell · Post by **scrowell** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:56 pm

fats provolone wrote:
scrowell wrote:
fats provolone wrote:going to law school seems like a fatal flaw in your plan
how so?
"succeed"

what do you do for a living, sir?

unodostres · Post by **unodostres** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:10 pm

i too can play the lotto

fats provolone · Post by **fats provolone** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:11 pm

scrowell wrote:
fats provolone wrote:
scrowell wrote:
fats provolone wrote:going to law school seems like a fatal flaw in your plan
how so?
"succeed"
what do you do for a living, sir?

I'm a lawyer bro. that's how i know your thread title is fundamentally flawed

scrowell · Post by **scrowell** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:16 pm

fats provolone wrote:
scrowell wrote:
fats provolone wrote: I'm a lawyer bro. that's how i know your thread title is fundamentally flawed

Well that makes 2 of us dude....tell me....are u unhappy being a lawyer?

bk1 · Post by **bk1** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:17 pm

fats provolone wrote:
scrowell wrote:
fats provolone wrote:"succeed"
what do you do for a living, sir?
I'm a lawyer bro. that's how i know your thread title is fundamentally flawed

Man, you missed the gimme response of "fail."

scrowell · Post by **scrowell** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:18 pm

Ps, gonna go lift now so will respond later. 180 5x5.

90convoy · Post by **90convoy** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:20 pm

well I already screwed up step number 1 so ill be a failure

bk1 · Post by **bk1** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:21 pm

OP reads like "how to be the most boring person possible" while also giving out plenty of bad advice.

banjo · Post by **banjo** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:39 pm

The typical TLS advice (T14 --> biglaw) actually gives you plenty of time during 2L and 3L year for taco bell, sports, and lifting. People start getting into weird hobbies.

mmelittlechicken · Post by **mmelittlechicken** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:41 pm

that's long and appears to have a lot of caps lock

scrowell · Post by **scrowell** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:43 pm

bk1 wrote:OP reads like "how to be the most boring person possible" while also giving out plenty of bad advice.

Lol u mean good advice?

jepper · Post by **jepper** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:44 pm

scrowell wrote:
bk1 wrote:OP reads like "how to be the most boring person possible" while also giving out plenty of bad advice.
Lol u mean good advice?

Short lifting sesh, bro

valen · Post by **valen** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:48 pm

LSAT/LS Apps
1. don't worry too much about it. I didn't study much and managed to get mid-150s.

Do you realize what forum you're posting on?

RZ5646 · Post by **RZ5646** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:05 pm

You lost me at "Don't worry about the LSAT. I didn't study much and got in the 150s."

Lol there's a reason this site is called Top Law Schools and not Shitty Regional Schools for People Who Are Too Lazy To Study For The LSAT And / Or Unintelligent.

Also, the STEM major circlejerk is good advice but getting really tedious. It's nothing we haven't all heard a million times before. We get it: life sucks, do something boring that will make money instead of being happy, pray for a quick death sooner than later, etc.

utahraptor · Post by **utahraptor** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:06 pm

OP what's your salary?

bluchai · Post by **bluchai** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:10 pm

Please go suck a chode.

Flips88 · Post by **Flips88** » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:18 pm

You're the heroin addict dude, right?

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