T14 Chances, currently prepping for first LSAT Forum

[jacobhrobertson]

Pretty simple, I'm a junior in a small, well regarded public liberal arts college. I am not URM, and I am male. I have the following things going for me:

English Major/COMS Minor with a focus in rhetoric
UGPA: Projected 3.8 (Could be +/- .1)
Will graduate with a separate diploma from our college's Honors Program
President of Philosophy Club
SGA Supreme Court Justice
Resident Assistant
Internship as the Social Media Manager of a local Arts and Culture Magazine
Student Representative for the University Writing Committee
Writing Consultant in the Campus Writing Center
Tutor for lower level maths, sciences, and philosophy
Ambassador Scholar (our school's most prestigious scholarship).

Unfortunately, I haven't taken the LSAT as of yet, but plan to early next year. If it holds in line with my other standardized testing experiences, I should expect 170-175. Of course, it's impossible to accurately predict such things, and most people overestimate their abilities. Apart from blowing the LSAT out of the water, what else can I be doing to increase my acceptance chances?

[Kratos]

Great info ab your chances here

LSAT prep kid. Also, go get a big boy/girl job between UG and law school for a year or two.

Also at assuming you're gonna get a 99th percentile score.

[Hand]

Pretty simple, I'm a junior in a small, well regarded public liberal arts college. I am not URM, and I am male. I have the following things going for me:

English Major/COMS Minor with a focus in rhetoric
UGPA: Projected 3.8 (Could be +/- .1)
Will graduate with a separate diploma from our college's Honors Program
President of Philosophy Club
SGA Supreme Court Justice
Resident Assistant
Internship as the Social Media Manager of a local Arts and Culture Magazine
Student Representative for the University Writing Committee
Writing Consultant in the Campus Writing Center
Tutor for lower level maths, sciences, and philosophy
Ambassador Scholar (our school's most prestigious scholarship).

Unfortunately, I haven't taken the LSAT as of yet, but plan to early next year. If it holds in line with my other standardized testing experiences, I should expect 170-175. Of course, it's impossible to accurately predict such things, and most people overestimate their abilities. Apart from blowing the LSAT out of the water, what else can I be doing to increase my acceptance chances?

FTFY

[Pneumonia]

Take a practice one real quick and see how you do. 175 is 99.5th, and average study time is two months. I wouldn't count on a great score, but you can achieve it by working really hard (probably)

[sundontshine]

Apart from blowing the LSAT out of the water, what else can I be doing to increase my acceptance chances?

None of what you posted other than your GPA will impact your admission chances. Go and get a job for a couple years and then think about law school. Don't throw your life away so early.

[Colonel_funkadunk]

Also, go get a big boy/girl job between UG and law school for a year or two.

Go and get a job for a couple years and then think about law school. Don't throw your life away so early.

[jacobhrobertson]

Great info ab your chances here

LSAT prep kid. Also, go get a big boy/girl job between UG and law school for a year or two.

Also at assuming you're gonna get a 99th percentile score.

I make assumptions only off past testing experiences, but as I stated, there is certainly the possibility (or, should I say, probability) for a significantly lower score. I am, however, trained extensively in formal logic, with 99.9 percentile scores in every non-mathematics standardized exam I've taken (ACT and whatnot). Practice tests taken under time restrictions, while certainly not indicative of test day performance, have been promising as well.

I've been debating finding a job in-between. If I fail to get into a good school, will the experience gained have a significant impact on a second round of applications?

[jacobhrobertson]

I know I sound like an ass, but I drastically underestimated my abilities when applying for UG, and would rather not make the same mistake again. I want to get into the best school I possibly can.

[korrakage]

Pretty simple, I'm a junior in a small, well regarded public liberal arts college. I am not URM, and I am male. I have the following things going for me:

English Major/COMS Minor with a focus in rhetoric
UGPA: Projected 3.8 (Could be +/- .1)
Will graduate with a separate diploma from our college's Honors Program
President of Philosophy Club
SGA Supreme Court Justice
Resident Assistant
Internship as the Social Media Manager of a local Arts and Culture Magazine
Student Representative for the University Writing Committee
Writing Consultant in the Campus Writing Center
Tutor for lower level maths, sciences, and philosophy
Ambassador Scholar (our school's most prestigious scholarship).

Unfortunately, I haven't taken the LSAT as of yet, but plan to early next year. If it holds in line with my other standardized testing experiences, I should expect 170-175. Of course, it's impossible to accurately predict such things, and most people overestimate their abilities. Apart from blowing the LSAT out of the water, what else can I be doing to increase my acceptance chances?

FTFY

LOL

[t-14orbust]

You have 0 chance of getting into the T-14. They require an LSAT score. Sorry bud

[Kratos]

Great info ab your chances here

LSAT prep kid. Also, go get a big boy/girl job between UG and law school for a year or two.

Also at assuming you're gonna get a 99th percentile score.

I make assumptions only off past testing experiences, but as I stated, there is certainly the possibility (or, should I say, probability) for a significantly lower score. I am, however, trained extensively in formal logic, with 99.9 percentile scores in every non-mathematics standardized exam I've taken (ACT and whatnot). Practice tests taken under time restrictions, while certainly not indicative of test day performance, have been promising as well.

I've been debating finding a job in-between. If I fail to get into a good school, will the experience gained have a significant impact on a second round of applications?

The getting job advice had little to do about your chances. It's about the fact that you totally should learn how a professional environment works, learn how to be an adult since college prepares you for nothing, enjoy your early-mid twenties before rushing into this horrible industry for the rest of your life. But, I'm pretty sure work experience is good for admissions and can be great in interviews during OCI. I'm getting the feeling that I would hate you in real life from your posts.

[pmacob]

Great info ab your chances here

LSAT prep kid. Also, go get a big boy/girl job between UG and law school for a year or two.

Also at assuming you're gonna get a 99th percentile score.

I make assumptions only off past testing experiences, but as I stated, there is certainly the possibility (or, should I say, probability) for a significantly lower score. I am, however, trained extensively in formal logic, with 99.9 percentile scores in every non-mathematics standardized exam I've taken (ACT and whatnot). Practice tests taken under time restrictions, while certainly not indicative of test day performance, have been promising as well.

I've been debating finding a job in-between. If I fail to get into a good school, will the experience gained have a significant impact on a second round of applications?

The LSAT is a far different demon than the ACT/SAT or "whatnot". I have known multiple people who scored in the 34-36 ACT and 2250+ SAT range who were unable to break 170 on the LSAT. The pace is far faster, and for a lot of people, the reasoning far more difficult to grasp. With a lot of work, I strongly believe most people can break 170, but I think you are clearly underestimating just how difficult the LSAT is. It is by and far the hardest standardized test I have ever taken, and I did very well on the SAT and the "whatnots".

However, like they've said above, come back when you've taken an LSAT. If you score below 170, retake before you come back here. You have a good GPA, and 173+ will not only give you an excellent chance at most T14s, but also a good chance of money from the schools as well.

[Mack.Hambleton]

u dont have a GPA or an LSAT

come on son

[Mack.Hambleton]

Great info ab your chances here

LSAT prep kid. Also, go get a big boy/girl job between UG and law school for a year or two.

Also at assuming you're gonna get a 99th percentile score.

I make assumptions only off past testing experiences, but as I stated, there is certainly the possibility (or, should I say, probability) for a significantly lower score. I am, however, trained extensively in formal logic, with 99.9 percentile scores in every non-mathematics standardized exam I've taken (ACT and whatnot). Practice tests taken under time restrictions, while certainly not indicative of test day performance, have been promising as well.

I've been debating finding a job in-between. If I fail to get into a good school, will the experience gained have a significant impact on a second round of applications?

[RZ5646]

Doing well on other standardized tests doesn't guarantee 170+ on the LSAT because it tests different skills and people tend to prepare for it a lot more. For instance, I got a 99th percentile score on the SAT with zero studying but my LSAT diagnostic was only mid 160's. The LSAT is simply a different beast and not to be underestimated.

And as others have said, no one is going to care about the massive extracurricular activities section on your resume, so don't sacrifice your GPA for it.

[UnicornHunter]

Pretty simple, I'm a junior in a small, well regarded public liberal arts college. I am not URM, and I am male. I have the following things going for me:

English Major/COMS Minor with a focus in rhetoric
UGPA: Projected 3.8 (Could be +/- .1)
Will graduate with a separate diploma from our college's Honors Program
President of Philosophy Club
SGA Supreme Court Justice
Resident Assistant
Internship as the Social Media Manager of a local Arts and Culture Magazine
Student Representative for the University Writing Committee
Writing Consultant in the Campus Writing Center
Tutor for lower level maths, sciences, and philosophy
Ambassador Scholar (our school's most prestigious scholarship).

Unfortunately, I haven't taken the LSAT as of yet, but plan to early next year. If it holds in line with my other standardized testing experiences, I should expect 170-175. Of course, it's impossible to accurately predict such things, and most people overestimate their abilities. Apart from blowing the LSAT out of the water, what else can I be doing to increase my acceptance chances?

Is that really a thing? How terrible. Do not put on your resume.

Finish skool with a 3.8+ and do good on the LSAT. Do real people things for a few years and see how that goes. You seem to have devoted yourself to being as unlikeable as possible though, so maybe law school as a K-JD is the right choice for you.

Really though, with a 3.8 and an activity or two you can put on a resume so it's not empty, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to get a full ride from a T14 if you do well on the LSAT.

Wait, I just thought of something. Even if you do decide to get a grown up job, make sure you spend the rest of your time in UG developing a relationship with 2-3 profs. Hit up office hours, show interest in their research, etc... Will make it easier to get a good letter of rec when the time comes.

[Kimikho]

UGPA: Projected 3.8 (Could be +/- .1)

Don't let this get below 3.8.

You can always study for the LSAT but you can't replace your grades.

[03152016]

just focus on gpa/lsat for now
though if you can't maintain your gpa while prepping, hold off on the lsat until after you graduate

your softs are fine

also, i second those saying you should think about a gap year or two

[RZ5646]

Really though, with a 3.8 and an activity or two you can put on a resume so it's not empty, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to get a full ride from a T14 if you do well on the LSAT.

Is this true? 3.8 is below most T14's 75th and not even slightly remarkable in many of the more grade inflated majors.

[Louis1127]

Don't listen to anyone on this thread, you amazing superstar you.

You will get a 175 easily. Anyone who doesn't get that just didn't try hard enough, and clearly you are going to try hard enough. You are going to coast to wherever you want in life, I'll tell you now.