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Work Experience

Post by kwabbs » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:37 pm

I'm new to the TLS website and really to the vast information about law school in general.. I've got two questions which may seem extremely dumb to the experienced on the website but I'm going to ask anyway..

1) When people say you need 1-3 years of work experience to set your applications apart from the rest, are they referring to relevant law experience (file clerk etc.) or just maintaining a job throughout college?

2) What is "drilling"? I just recently took the online powerscore class and am reading a lot about drilling on this website.. It's quiet probable I'm already doing drills I just don't call them that..

Just took the Sept. LSAT and am considering the december .. GPA is a 3.6 and am looking for high 160's low to mid 170's to get into UCLA.

Thanks:)

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Re: Work Experience

Post by BigZuck » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:41 pm

kwabbs wrote:I'm new to the TLS website and really to the vast information about law school in general.. I've got two questions which may seem extremely dumb to the experienced on the website but I'm going to ask anyway..

1) When people say you need 1-3 years of work experience to set your applications apart from the rest, are they referring to relevant law experience (file clerk etc.) or just maintaining a job throughout college?

2) What is "drilling"? I just recently took the online powerscore class and am reading a lot about drilling on this website.. It's quiet probable I'm already doing drills I just don't call them that..

Just took the Sept. LSAT and am considering the december .. GPA is a 3.6 and am looking for high 160's low to mid 170's to get into UCLA.

Thanks:)
Work experience is working full time after college, lots of people tend to think that's better than going straight through to law school (aka kindergarten through JD aka K-JD)

Drilling usually means practicing many LSAT questions of the same type

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Re: Work Experience

Post by malleus discentium » Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:49 pm

BigZuck wrote:
kwabbs wrote:I'm new to the TLS website and really to the vast information about law school in general.. I've got two questions which may seem extremely dumb to the experienced on the website but I'm going to ask anyway..

1) When people say you need 1-3 years of work experience to set your applications apart from the rest, are they referring to relevant law experience (file clerk etc.) or just maintaining a job throughout college?

2) What is "drilling"? I just recently took the online powerscore class and am reading a lot about drilling on this website.. It's quiet probable I'm already doing drills I just don't call them that..

Just took the Sept. LSAT and am considering the december .. GPA is a 3.6 and am looking for high 160's low to mid 170's to get into UCLA.

Thanks:)
Work experience is working full time after college, lots of people tend to think that's better than going straight through to law school (aka kindergarten through JD aka K-JD)

Drilling usually means practicing many LSAT questions of the same type
WE is not restricted to just full-time work after college; it includes WE full-time or part-time during college. However, there is a difference between what WE during and after college does for you. Both provide, generally, the benefit of having worked before, which is something employers value. Post-college WE has the added benefit of giving you perspective and time to live outside the academic bubble that is desirable for many reasons.

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Re: Work Experience

Post by BigZuck » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:21 pm

malleus discentium wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
kwabbs wrote:I'm new to the TLS website and really to the vast information about law school in general.. I've got two questions which may seem extremely dumb to the experienced on the website but I'm going to ask anyway..

1) When people say you need 1-3 years of work experience to set your applications apart from the rest, are they referring to relevant law experience (file clerk etc.) or just maintaining a job throughout college?

2) What is "drilling"? I just recently took the online powerscore class and am reading a lot about drilling on this website.. It's quiet probable I'm already doing drills I just don't call them that..

Just took the Sept. LSAT and am considering the december .. GPA is a 3.6 and am looking for high 160's low to mid 170's to get into UCLA.

Thanks:)
Work experience is working full time after college, lots of people tend to think that's better than going straight through to law school (aka kindergarten through JD aka K-JD)

Drilling usually means practicing many LSAT questions of the same type
WE is not restricted to just full-time work after college; it includes WE full-time or part-time during college. However, there is a difference between what WE during and after college does for you. Both provide, generally, the benefit of having worked before, which is something employers value. Post-college WE has the added benefit of giving you perspective and time to live outside the academic bubble that is desirable for many reasons.
Of course "work experience" literally means "work experience." But the whole "work experience" can mean "working while in college" thing seems to be largely flame perpetuated by the latest crop of 0Ls/1Ls in order to combat the flame perpetuated by Northwestern University Law School upon 2Ls/3Ls/recent grads.

So I guess it depends on your perspective. Back in the Golden Age of TLS, work experience meant working full time after college. In the modern era it means just working (I guess?). People get really butt hurt over these definitions, so I'll politely duck out of this thread now.

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Re: Work Experience

Post by Winston1984 » Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:36 pm

I definitely take it to mean post-graduation employment. Seems like several K-JDs that worked during school underperformed last cycle.

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Re: Work Experience

Post by malleus discentium » Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:44 pm

BigZuck wrote:
malleus discentium wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
kwabbs wrote:I'm new to the TLS website and really to the vast information about law school in general.. I've got two questions which may seem extremely dumb to the experienced on the website but I'm going to ask anyway..

1) When people say you need 1-3 years of work experience to set your applications apart from the rest, are they referring to relevant law experience (file clerk etc.) or just maintaining a job throughout college?

2) What is "drilling"? I just recently took the online powerscore class and am reading a lot about drilling on this website.. It's quiet probable I'm already doing drills I just don't call them that..

Just took the Sept. LSAT and am considering the december .. GPA is a 3.6 and am looking for high 160's low to mid 170's to get into UCLA.

Thanks:)
Work experience is working full time after college, lots of people tend to think that's better than going straight through to law school (aka kindergarten through JD aka K-JD)

Drilling usually means practicing many LSAT questions of the same type
WE is not restricted to just full-time work after college; it includes WE full-time or part-time during college. However, there is a difference between what WE during and after college does for you. Both provide, generally, the benefit of having worked before, which is something employers value. Post-college WE has the added benefit of giving you perspective and time to live outside the academic bubble that is desirable for many reasons.
Of course "work experience" literally means "work experience." But the whole "work experience" can mean "working while in college" thing seems to be largely flame perpetuated by the latest crop of 0Ls/1Ls in order to combat the flame perpetuated by Northwestern University Law School upon 2Ls/3Ls/recent grads.

So I guess it depends on your perspective. Back in the Golden Age of TLS, work experience meant working full time after college. In the modern era it means just working (I guess?). People get really butt hurt over these definitions, so I'll politely duck out of this thread now.
To be clear, I didn't say anything about what WE does for admissions and my comment stands WRT what it actually set out to explain. When WE gives a boost at all, postgraduation WE definitely qualifies. I don't think it's so easy to say that WE during undergrad doesn't give that boost, so I didn't comment either way.

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Re: Work Experience

Post by Cpt Zapp Brannigan » Tue Sep 30, 2014 2:40 pm

Work experience (not just law, any kind of job) after college can give you a boost. College jobs are generally less meaningful, unless it was like a 2 year research project or something cool like that. How much W.E. counts depends on a ton of factors. But at bare minimum it shows you have some maturity. But W.E. is way, way secondary to LSAT and GPA. You don't "need" to do it, but yes it can give you a bump. And it doesn't matter if it's in law or not. Don't become a paralegal for 3 years just because you think it might look good.

However, the real reason work experience is important is FOR YOU! As you'll see from these forums threads, the law market has crashed, and most law students will end up with no law job and $100,000 plus in crushing debt. You really need to know you want to do law. You need to be fairly certain of it. Take time, if you can find a different career path you love, OMG take it. You will never know unless you look. Law school is also a brutal 3 years where all you do is study. Take at least two years to enjoy your youth. I think it's cruel and unusual punishment to go straight into law school from undergrad.

2. Drilling is practice tests (old LSAT exams). Check the LSAT study sections of this site for more. But if you live near a large urban area I strongly suggest paying for an in person LSAT class. Self study is doable, but a quality LSAT prep class can save a lot of time.

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Re: Work Experience

Post by appind » Tue Sep 30, 2014 4:52 pm


2. Drilling is practice tests (old LSAT exams). Check the LSAT study sections of this site for more. But if you live near a large urban area I strongly suggest paying for an in person LSAT class. Self study is doable, but a quality LSAT prep class can save a lot of time.
doesn't "drilling" mean doing only a certain type of questions from say cambridge in a highly timed manner? Doing PTs is not drilling.

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