Hey everybody, I am new here and somewhat clueless... Forum

[Tennis Dude]

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[Tennis Dude]

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[HYSTime]

Study.

[Moneytrees]

Keep studying. Improving your score is largely based on how much time/work you put into studying. I'm about to retake the LSAT for a 3rd time. First PT score: 150. First LSAT score: 163. Second LSAT score: 165. Most people on these boards will tell you that it's possible to improve your score to the high 160's with enough work and smart study habits. I agree with them.

You already got a 162 on the LSAT, which shows that you are smart. Plenty of people take the LSAT 3 times. Buckle down, study smarter and retake.

[Tiago Splitter]

The fact that you got a 162 on the real thing is a good sign, especially given that you have room to improve on games. Another 6-8 points should really be no problem if you put in the time.

[R. Jeeves]

Basically, my situation is this:

"Did anyone else start out with a really low diag and eventually get in the high 160s/170s and go to a good law school and become a lawyer?"

Don't treat the thing like an IQ test or something. The diag doesn't mean much. Plenty of people in the most selective law schools are there because they studied their asses off for the LSAT after a low diag.

[malleus discentium]

The LSAT is designed to predict exactly one thing: 1L grades. It does not reflect whether you'll be a good lawyer.

[mephistopheles]

The LSAT is designed to predict exactly one thing: 1L grades. It does not reflect whether you'll be a good lawyer.

alright, bitter recipient of poor lsat score and poor grades and bad career prospects

[Cradle6]

I knew someone with a Diagnostic in the 140's who ended with a high 170's.

[Johann]

What are you doing now? Law school all depends on what you are doing now and your alternative careers...

[Tennis Dude]

Keep studying. Improving your score is largely based on how much time/work you put into studying. I'm about to retake the LSAT for a 3rd time. First PT score: 150. First LSAT score: 163. Second LSAT score: 165. Most people on these boards will tell you that it's possible to improve your score to the high 160's with enough work and smart study habits. I agree with them.

You already got a 162 on the LSAT, which shows that you are smart. Plenty of people take the LSAT 3 times. Buckle down, study smarter and retake.

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[Tennis Dude]

What are you doing now? Law school all depends on what you are doing now and your alternative careers...

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[malleus discentium]

The LSAT is designed to predict exactly one thing: 1L grades. It does not reflect whether you'll be a good lawyer.

alright, bitter recipient of poor lsat score and poor grades and bad career prospects

Even a cursory glance at my profile would've been useful before saying such nasty and stupid things. Especially because I am, despite your attitude, correct. The LSAC says the test is designed is designed to measure skills that are considered essential for success in law school (not skills essential for being a good lawyer) and does studies to determine how the LSAT (and UGPA) predict 1L grades.

[Johann]

What are you doing now? Law school all depends on what you are doing now and your alternative careers...

Temping and substitute teaching.

Definitely study up on the LSAT and get a couple more points. Law isn't glorious, but I'd roll the dice at UF/FSU before I continued down your path. I'm assuming you make less than $35k/yr.

[mephistopheles]

The LSAT is designed to predict exactly one thing: 1L grades. It does not reflect whether you'll be a good lawyer.

alright, bitter recipient of poor lsat score and poor grades and bad career prospects

Even a cursory glance at my profile would've been useful before saying such nasty and stupid things. Especially because I am, despite your attitude, correct. The LSAC says the test is designed is designed to measure skills that are considered essential for success in law school (not skills essential for being a good lawyer) and does studies to determine how the LSAT (and UGPA) predict 1L grades.

i'll put it like this, anyone who can't up their score in time for law school admissions is someone i would not want to be my attorney

[mephistopheles]

and lol at being like, my profile says it so it must be true

[hillz]

Not sure if you tried this when you studied previously, but perhaps studying with someone else (whether in person or virtually) would help calm your studying nerves. Sometimes shared experiences are easier. Just something to think about...

[Moneytrees]

Keep studying. Improving your score is largely based on how much time/work you put into studying. I'm about to retake the LSAT for a 3rd time. First PT score: 150. First LSAT score: 163. Second LSAT score: 165. Most people on these boards will tell you that it's possible to improve your score to the high 160's with enough work and smart study habits. I agree with them.

You already got a 162 on the LSAT, which shows that you are smart. Plenty of people take the LSAT 3 times. Buckle down, study smarter and retake.

Thank you for advice. What did you do to go from 150 to 165

Logic Games- Buy the Logic Game Bible. It's a great resource and will teach you how to nail the games. Keep drilling every chapter. I went from being pretty clueless on the games and only getting 14 points right on my first LSAT, to getting 18/23 on my second LSAT. I'm still improving and would like to get a perfect score on my 3rd try. Also, use 7Sage.com to get detailed explanations for every logic game.

Logical Reasoning- This section is similar to the games in that you can master it by learning the basics to each question type and keep drilling until you know exactly how to approach each type. You could buy the LR Bible, which is pretty solid. I personally learned the most through my Blueprint study materials. Ultimately, it doesn't matter how you master each question type, as long as you do. This section seems daunting at first, until you realize there really aren't that many types of question types. If you study hard enough, you should be able to learn how to destroy this section.

Lastly, I personally believe that the best way to get better at Reading Comprehension is, aside from knowing the basics of the section, to read as much dense and complex material as you can. Buy the Economist and read it from front to back, trying to truly understand everything you read. Read your local newspaper every day. You will be amazed at how much easier it will be to process the information in Reading Comprehension passages once you are accustomed and comfortable with reading dense material. I practiced RC the least, and got a 24/27 on the June LSAT on this section. I mostly credit that score to all the Camus and Nietzsche I read while preparing for the LSAT.

[Tennis Dude]

What are you doing now? Law school all depends on what you are doing now and your alternative careers...

Temping and substitute teaching.

Definitely study up on the LSAT and get a couple more points. Law isn't glorious, but I'd roll the dice at UF/FSU before I continued down your path. I'm assuming you make less than $35k/yr.

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[PotenC]

and lol at being like, my profile says it so it must be true

Sounds like you didn't get into Harvard bro.

[Tennis Dude]

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[Johann]

Apply to all and come back when you have money offers. I'd lean uf or fsu though. I mean really given your current situation, both of those schools even at sticker are better than your current sitch

Law school practice programs are largely shit. Uf and fsu lead to better outcomes.

[Nova]

no one has answered my question regarding going to Nova for the law school practice programs specifically. Any insight?

law school doesnt teach u how to b a lawyer

don't b swayed by any specific programs

go by job prospects, cost of attendance, and location

[twenty]

Yeah, don't go to Nova under any conditions.

Considering you're an in-state student, tuition at either FSU or UF is going to be fairly cheap. On top of that, even with your numbers, you'll probably get some scholarship money thrown in. If your parents/other family live near Tallahassee or Gainesville (and you can move back in with them) that makes the choice a lot easier. It's basically a coin flip between the two otherwise.

If you're absolutely sure you want to do PD, I don't see why you should go out of state to a better school. Retake the LSAT for increased scholarship money, but you'll do well at one of UF/FSU.

[Tennis Dude]

Yeah, don't go to Nova under any conditions.

Considering you're an in-state student, tuition at either FSU or UF is going to be fairly cheap. On top of that, even with your numbers, you'll probably get some scholarship money thrown in. If your parents/other family live near Tallahassee or Gainesville (and you can move back in with them) that makes the choice a lot easier. It's basically a coin flip between the two otherwise.

If you're absolutely sure you want to do PD, I don't see why you should go out of state to a better school. Retake the LSAT for increased scholarship money, but you'll do well at one of UF/FSU.

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