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how to show interest for Penn law?

Post by hopefulEagle » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:48 am

hi guys,

I have a 3.4 GPA and a 174 LSAT and am looking to ED Penn. I was wondering how do i go about and show interest in Penn? i know applying ED is obvious, but in what other ways should I go about and show interest? Maybe visit them (close enough for me)?

EDIT: i know this isn't the chances thread, but do y'all think I can get Penn ED with those stats? mylsn says so but the sample size is pretty small.

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Re: how to show interest for Penn law?

Post by ymmv » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:47 am

hopefulEagle wrote:hi guys,

I have a 3.4 GPA and a 174 LSAT and am looking to ED Penn. I was wondering how do i go about and show interest in Penn? i know applying ED is obvious, but in what other ways should I go about and show interest? Maybe visit them (close enough for me)?

EDIT: i know this isn't the chances thread, but do y'all think I can get Penn ED with those stats? mylsn says so but the sample size is pretty small.
As I told you before, do not apply ED - sticker is not worth it unless you are LRAP or bust (don't do this).
Visit the school. Talk to students and alum. Obtain fodder to write a good Why Penn essay. Be genuine. Don't oversell it.

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Re: how to show interest for Penn law?

Post by DoveBodyWash » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:00 pm

I don't think your chances at Penn RD are so bad that you have to ED...And maybe you end up deciding that Penn at sticker is best choice but you'd be robbing yourself of the option of picking other schools with more money, or potentially negotiating with Penn after an RD offer.

To answer your question, i think applying ED is probably the best way to express serious interest...i don't think they're going to admit you or deny you based on whether you visited the campus or something lol

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Post by Phil Brooks » Sun Jun 29, 2014 12:33 pm

Please don't apply ED and thereby rob yourself of the chance to negotiate for scholarships. I go to Penn.

Apply RD and mention the following throughout your application and in your Why Penn essay:

-Time when you took an interdisciplinary approach to solve a problem
-Ability to thrive in small environments
-Ability to contribute to a colegial environment

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Re: how to show interest for Penn law?

Post by 03152016 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:17 am

don't apply ED dude
you'll be glad you listened to us when you're weighing t14 scholarship offers in ten months

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Re: how to show interest for Penn law?

Post by ilikebaseball » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:40 am

I don't really understand.. I want to apply ED at Texas. I asked this question earlier. How does applying ED effect scholarship? Like for example, if I applied ED at Texas, got rejected, but then raised my LSAT and GPA that semester, would I be able to apply again in the same period with a different result?

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Post by ymmv » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:21 am

choward014 wrote:I don't really understand.. I want to apply ED at Texas. I asked this question earlier. How does applying ED effect scholarship? Like for example, if I applied ED at Texas, got rejected, but then raised my LSAT and GPA that semester, would I be able to apply again in the same period with a different result?
You will not get a scholarship if you ED. Period. Except maybe to NU, and no one gets that.
Do not ED. This isn't complicated.

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Re: how to show interest for Penn law?

Post by ilikebaseball » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:22 am

ymmv wrote:
choward014 wrote:I don't really understand.. I want to apply ED at Texas. I asked this question earlier. How does applying ED effect scholarship? Like for example, if I applied ED at Texas, got rejected, but then raised my LSAT and GPA that semester, would I be able to apply again in the same period with a different result?
You will not get a scholarship if you ED. Period. Except maybe to NU, and no one gets that.
I dont understand though, why? Would you not have a HIGHER chance at the availability of money that the school has to offer if you apply early?

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Post by 03152016 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:24 am

ymmv wrote:
choward014 wrote:I don't really understand.. I want to apply ED at Texas. I asked this question earlier. How does applying ED effect scholarship? Like for example, if I applied ED at Texas, got rejected, but then raised my LSAT and GPA that semester, would I be able to apply again in the same period with a different result?
You will not get a scholarship if you ED. Period. Except maybe to NU, and no one gets that.
Do not ED. This isn't complicated.
if he's texas resident he'll get 30k stipend with ut ed
but still, 100% agree that ed only makes sense for nu, gw

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Re: how to show interest for Penn law?

Post by ymmv » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:26 am

choward014 wrote:
ymmv wrote:
choward014 wrote:I don't really understand.. I want to apply ED at Texas. I asked this question earlier. How does applying ED effect scholarship? Like for example, if I applied ED at Texas, got rejected, but then raised my LSAT and GPA that semester, would I be able to apply again in the same period with a different result?
You will not get a scholarship if you ED. Period. Except maybe to NU, and no one gets that.
I dont understand though, why? Would you not have a HIGHER chance at the availability of money that the school has to offer if you apply early?
Because the school has ZERO INCENTIVE to give you a scholarship when you have COMMITTED TO ATTEND WHETHER OR NOT YOU RECEIVE A SCHOLARSHIP.

Apologies for the volume, but I don't know how it's possible for you not to understand this if you're seriously applying to law schools. Applying ED and getting accepted commits you to attend at sticker price and locks you out of all other competing offers, including any chance of leveraging scholarship funds. It's a terrible fucking idea.

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Re: how to show interest for Penn law?

Post by ilikebaseball » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:29 am

OHHHH okay. For some reason, I wasnt under the impression that ED meant that, upon acceptance, you HAD to go to that school. I thought the purpose of ED was for the people that wanted to get their college applications out of the way early just to avoid procrastination. I mean, that makes sense. The confusion was over the def of ED lol

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Post by ymmv » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:31 am

choward014 wrote:OHHHH okay. For some reason, I wasnt under the impression that ED meant that, upon acceptance, you HAD to go to that school. I thought the purpose of ED was for the people that wanted to get their college applications out of the way early just to avoid procrastination. I mean, that makes sense. The confusion was over the def of ED lol
What you describe is Early Action, and basically no one does it in the law school game.

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Re: how to show interest for Penn law?

Post by igo2northwestern » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:54 am

hopefulEagle wrote:hi guys,

I have a 3.4 GPA and a 174 LSAT and am looking to ED Penn. I was wondering how do i go about and show interest in Penn? i know applying ED is obvious, but in what other ways should I go about and show interest? Maybe visit them (close enough for me)?

EDIT: i know this isn't the chances thread, but do y'all think I can get Penn ED with those stats? mylsn says so but the sample size is pretty small.
A 3.4/174 appears to have a >35% at admission, with your GPA being the limiting factor. Not bad. If you 1. Write the additional essays they ask for, 2. E-mail them a letter(s) of continued interest (if you get waitlisted), and 3. Do a visit, and speak with their admissions director via interview, you'll likely have no problem. Another plus is if you can get a current student to introduce you to the admissions team.

A lot of this data is from the last 5 admissions cycles, so I believe you'll outperform most of these people:

3.4/174: 10% http://lawschoolnumbers.com/gpa-3.4/lsat-174
3.4/173: 42% http://lawschoolnumbers.com/gpa-3.4/lsat-173
3.4/172: 50% http://lawschoolnumbers.com/gpa-3.4/lsat-172
3.35/174: 28.6% http://lawschoolnumbers.com/gpa-3.35/lsat-174
3.35/172: 43% http://lawschoolnumbers.com/gpa-3.35/lsat-172
3.35/173: 31% http://lawschoolnumbers.com/gpa-3.35/lsat-173

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Re: how to show interest for Penn law?

Post by cavalier2015 » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:38 pm

sorry for adding onto the OP question, but how do you request for an interview when you visit at Penn law?

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