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Veni_Vidi_Vici · Post by **Veni_Vidi_Vici** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:10 pm

Even if I have a perfect LSAT/GPA, a guy with connections will easily get in over me at HYS.

I'm worried now. Also, I don't have a lot of softs - not many clubs or volunteering.

Pancakes12 · Post by **Pancakes12** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:14 pm

Lack of softs might hurt you at HYS. Lack of connections won't hurt you at all.

thevuch · Post by **thevuch** » Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:29 pm

just get a 4.0 and a 180 and dont worry about it

dabigchina · Post by **dabigchina** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:32 am

Veni_Vidi_Vici wrote:Even if I have a perfect LSAT/GPA, a guy with connections will easily get in over me at HYS.

I'm worried now. Also, I don't have a lot of softs - not many clubs or volunteering.

If you are that worried take a year off and work. 1 year of work experience as a paralegal/accountant/other professional will trump any kind of club membership/leadership you do in college

MistakenGenius · Post by **MistakenGenius** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:11 am

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Winston1984 · Post by **Winston1984** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:07 am

MistakenGenius wrote:Your friend completely overstated the situation. Yes, there are a few people who will get in because of who they know despite mediocre grades and an LSAT. I mean, Ronan Farrow had a pretty damn low LSAT for the T14 but got into Yale (and his Rhodes scholarship) because he's the son of Woody Allen and Mia Farrow. Yes, nepotism is alive and well and always will be. That said, Harvard offers 900 students, Stanford 400, and Yale 230 or so. You really think that many people have connections? Absolutely not. We're talking like a dozen in all. If you get the 4.0 and 180, you'll get into all three (small chance not Yale, they genuinely care about softs since they can afford to). So, long story short, will a guy with genuine connections get in? Yes, but there are hundreds of others who will also get into these schools. I'm a broke southern boy from a backwoods. I know a lawyer who works in a town of 12,000 people. That's about the scope of my political clout. I got into Yale because I had a great LSAT, pretty good grades, and bitching softs. Don't worry about things that are beyond your control and try your best.

What was his LSAT score?

manu6926 · Post by **manu6926** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:16 am

MistakenGenius · Post by **MistakenGenius** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:46 am

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A. Nony Mouse · Post by **A. Nony Mouse** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:52 am

MistakenGenius wrote:I'm not saying the dude isn't smart, he might even be brilliant, but his numbers were clearly boosted by the fact he has incredibly famous parents (I mean, his dad is basically the most famous director ever).

Or Frank Sinatra.

But I agree - I mean, sure, people do get into HYS based on connections. That doesn't mean the unconnected 4.0/180 doesn't get in.

Straw_Mandible · Post by **Straw_Mandible** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:55 am

MistakenGenius · Post by **MistakenGenius** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:48 pm

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phillywc · Post by **phillywc** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:47 pm

Tons of people get HYS with borderline numbers with no connections. Have a compelling story and a strong applications. Have the numbers. Enjoy HYS.

Cicero76 · Post by **Cicero76** » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:21 pm

I am literally the definition of no connections. Most of my classmates don't have any either. Are there people who probably got in through connections? Yeah, but most of them were probably at least qualified. And the connections people is a lot lower of a number than I expected.

03152016 · Post by **03152016** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:11 am

MistakenGenius wrote:He was on one of the other forums (maybe LSD?) a few years ago defending himself. He had right around a 160 (maybe 159). I don't feel those are bad scores, they're actually pretty good, but if someone came on here from Bard college (which is a college meant for teenagers who skip most of high school) with that LSAT wanting to go to HYS, we'd tell them their chances were nil and to retake to have any shot. His softs were definitely admirable, but it was really just him tagging along with his amazing mother. I'm not saying the dude isn't smart, he might even be brilliant, but his numbers were clearly boosted by the fact he has incredibly famous parents (I mean, his dad is basically the most famous director ever).

And as for the second post, I did suspect it was flame, but I posted a genuine answer in case some other confused applicant wound up here.

Was xoxo: --LinkRemoved--.

We don't really find out what his scores are, but supposedly he claimed 90th percentile in another thread.