Softs, How bad to be considered bad? Forum

[asdfjkz900]

Thanks all

[redsox]

How does a K-JD end up with long stretches of doing nothing? Isn't the whole point that your life has been one long stretch of being a student?

[iamgeorgebush]

Yep, sounds like you're going to Cooley.

[Happy Gilmore]

It will probably hurt you if it is actually as bad as you say. You've had to have done at least something? No W/E at all?

But probably not enough to make you an auto-ding at H. Still a chance to get in.

[northwood]

have you done anything besides go to class and go to the library? If you did, then you can talk about them.

In the end its mostly all about the LSAT and the GPA

[TheMostDangerousLG]

So you have a 176 and a 3.98? Shut up and go away.

[iamgeorgebush]

So you have a 176 and a 3.98? Shut up and go away.

HLS median GPA is 3.88.

[xylocarp]

What's done is done, and since you're not considering working, there's really nothing else you can do. You should get H, but if you seriously underperform your numbers, maybe reconsider getting some WE and reapplying.

[hichvichwoh]

it doesn't sound like this will affect your LS apps that much, but it will definitely bite you in the ass when it comes time to look for jobs

[rinkrat19]

Join a sports team and/or a student club, and get a hobby, while you're at it.

[hephaestus]

it doesn't sound like this will affect your LS apps that much, but it will definitely bite you in the ass when it comes time to look for jobs

I agree with this. You should consider working 1 year after graduation.

[asdfjkz900]

How does a K-JD end up with long stretches of doing nothing? Isn't the whole point that your life has been one long stretch of being a student?

Pretty much; the only things I did were go to school and have fun.

[asdfjkz900]

It will probably hurt you if it is actually as bad as you say. You've had to have done at least something? No W/E at all?

But probably not enough to make you an auto-ding at H. Still a chance to get in.

Couple volunteer positions but no formal work exp

[asdfjkz900]

have you done anything besides go to class and go to the library? If you did, then you can talk about them.

In the end its mostly all about the LSAT and the GPA

I have things I can talk about for fifteen minutes, but i might sound a little affected

[thewaves]

it doesn't sound like this will affect your LS apps that much, but it will definitely bite you in the ass when it comes time to look for jobs

I agree with this. You should consider working 1 year after graduation.

+1. The legal market is against K-JDs with nothing on their resume. Even at HLS.

[asdfjkz900]

it doesn't sound like this will affect your LS apps that much, but it will definitely bite you in the ass when it comes time to look for jobs

I agree with this. You should consider working 1 year after graduation.

+1. The legal market is against K-JDs with nothing on their resume. Even at HLS.

Thanks for the advice. I have about 9 months left until law school starts so I'll definitely look into jobs. Would securing a full-time job during this period suffice?

[hephaestus]

it doesn't sound like this will affect your LS apps that much, but it will definitely bite you in the ass when it comes time to look for jobs

I agree with this. You should consider working 1 year after graduation.

+1. The legal market is against K-JDs with nothing on their resume. Even at HLS.

Thanks for the advice. I have about 9 months left until law school starts so I'll definitely look into jobs. Would securing a full-time job during this period suffice?

Having any sort of work experience, even low-level, will go a long way towards helping you at OCI. I had a low level white collar job before law school and it definitely helped me in interviews. Those that had high level work experience (think PE, banking etc.), there was a measurable boos in outcomes. However, anything will help.

[asdfjkz900]

Having any sort of work experience, even low-level, will go a long way towards helping you at OCI. I had a low level white collar job before law school and it definitely helped me in interviews. Those that had high level work experience (think PE, banking etc.), there was a measurable boos in outcomes. However, anything will help.[/quote]

Thanks for the wise words

So is it tcr that having lackluster softs will not be much of a factor when applying to law school, but that I should have them for the sake of employment post-law school?

[hichvichwoh]

Having any sort of work experience, even low-level, will go a long way towards helping you at OCI. I had a low level white collar job before law school and it definitely helped me in interviews. Those that had high level work experience (think PE, banking etc.), there was a measurable boos in outcomes. However, anything will help.

Thanks for the wise words

So is it tcr that having lackluster softs will not be much of a factor when applying to law school, but that I should have them for the sake of employment post-law school?[/quote]

not so much softs as work experience. No one will ever care what leadership positions you had in UG clubs

[Tiago Splitter]

So is it tcr that having lackluster softs will not be much of a factor when applying to law school, but that I should have them for the sake of employment post-law school?

For both apps and OCI you just need things that can fill the resume and provide something to talk about for a few minutes in interviews.

[esse est percipi]

So is it tcr that having lackluster softs will not be much of a factor when applying to law school, but that I should have them for the sake of employment post-law school?

No. It will hurt you for both. You'll probably still get into Chicago and Columbia, but HYS will be tough. People with your numbers get dinged every year at H for weak softs. Work experience, extracurriculars and school leadership positions will rarely help you overperform your numbers, but a lack of these things will likely make you underperform.

Get involved in your school right now. Hopefully you'll be able to get a leadership position come next semester. Then get a year of work experience. Then enjoy Harvard.

[SupCutie]

Well I'm not HYS bound, but I'm probably effed if weak softs are a factor.

I literally went to class, had fun, volunteered here and there, worked at a coffee shop briefly and played intramural sports lol.

[asdfjkz900]

So is it tcr that having lackluster softs will not be much of a factor when applying to law school, but that I should have them for the sake of employment post-law school?

No. It will hurt you for both. You'll probably still get into Chicago and Columbia, but HYS will be tough. People with your numbers get dinged every year at H for weak softs. Work experience, extracurriculars and school leadership positions will rarely help you overperform your numbers, but a lack of these things will likely make you underperform.

So is this tcr? I know I have a marginal chance at Stanford and Yale, but I'd be super happy with Harvard

[asdfjkz900]

Well I'm not HYS bound, but I'm probably effed if weak softs are a factor.

I literally went to class, had fun, volunteered here and there, worked at a coffee shop briefly and played intramural sports lol.

Story of my college life

[Happy Gilmore]

So is it tcr that having lackluster softs will not be much of a factor when applying to law school, but that I should have them for the sake of employment post-law school?

No. It will hurt you for both. You'll probably still get into Chicago and Columbia, but HYS will be tough. People with your numbers get dinged every year at H for weak softs. Work experience, extracurriculars and school leadership positions will rarely help you overperform your numbers, but a lack of these things will likely make you underperform.

So is this tcr? I know I have a marginal chance at Stanford and Yale, but I'd be super happy with Harvard

How do you know you have a marginal chance at Stanford and Yale? Just from your numbers? If you have absolutely no softs whatsoever I would write those two off and just hope Harvard decides to take you.