C&F Specifics Forum
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lilkrnq

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C&F Specifics
Hi. Sorry if this is a noob question, but if I need to address something for C&F, how specific do I need to be or can it be the general gist of what happened? Would one paragraph suffice: what happened generally, what I learned, etc.
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xylocarp

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Re: C&F Specifics
I think conventional wisdom is to keep it short and concise while obviously disclosing everything in as honest a manner as possible. Depending on the nature of the incident, I think one paragraph (or even shorter?) can be acceptable.
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Cooleytruthsayer

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Re: C&F Specifics
It may depend on what it is. Some things its best to be simple but other things look so bad on the surface that you pretty much have to go into detail to explain why you aren't histories greatest monster.
A single DUI where no one got hurt vs a habitual hamster strangler would be a few extreme examples I guess.
What was yours (if you feel ok sharing) ?
A single DUI where no one got hurt vs a habitual hamster strangler would be a few extreme examples I guess.
What was yours (if you feel ok sharing) ?
- TheSpanishMain

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Re: C&F Specifics
Be as concise as possible without looking evasive.
Example: On March 10th, 2009 I was arrested for huffing copier toner while pleasuring myself. I received 2 months probation and was the subject of much public mockery. I regret this incident and have resolved not to repeat it. Since this incident, I have had a clean record.
You get the idea. Give the who, what, where, when, why without writing a novel.
Example: On March 10th, 2009 I was arrested for huffing copier toner while pleasuring myself. I received 2 months probation and was the subject of much public mockery. I regret this incident and have resolved not to repeat it. Since this incident, I have had a clean record.
You get the idea. Give the who, what, where, when, why without writing a novel.
- Typhoon24

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Re: C&F Specifics
TheSpanishMain wrote:Be as concise as possible without looking evasive.
Example: On March 10th, 2009 I was arrested for huffing copier toner while pleasuring myself. I received 2 months probation and was the subject of much public mockery. I regret this incident and have resolved not to repeat it. Since this incident, I have had a clean record.
You get the idea. Give the who, what, where, when, why without writing a novel.
The combination of your avatar and your example made me LOL
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lilkrnq

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Void

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Re: C&F Specifics
This is vague.
Also, separated AND let go? Are these really two things?
Also, separated AND let go? Are these really two things?
- wtrc

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Re: C&F Specifics
I feel like "separated" is a weird term to use. Maybe it's just me, but I find it a bit awkward as a term about getting fired.lilkrnq wrote:Please do not quote. I have taken out the name of my previous employer but everything else remains the same. Any feedback would be appreciated.
(Addendum here)
I would take out the last line, or at least reword it to "If needed, I can provide more details."
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lilkrnq

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Re: C&F Specifics
Thank you for the feedback thus far. Would elaboration be necessary as in would I need to explain the exact reporting situation?
- midwest17

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Re: C&F Specifics
What's the question you're answering?lilkrnq wrote:Thank you for the feedback thus far. Would elaboration be necessary as in would I need to explain the exact reporting situation?
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bp shinners

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Re: C&F Specifics
Removed as per OPs request.
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Void

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Re: C&F Specifics
Say what happened and be upfront about it. When you are vague it just makes readers assume the worst (like you worked at Penn State and failed to report that an employee was diddling little boys in the locker room). Also, just say you were fired. Your other colorful expressions just make you sound evasive. I suggest the following format:
On date I was fired by employer because I failed to do X until Y time, and employer's policy required me to do X by Z time. (Then some crap about how you regret the mistake)
On date I was fired by employer because I failed to do X until Y time, and employer's policy required me to do X by Z time. (Then some crap about how you regret the mistake)
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lilkrnq

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Re: C&F Specifics
Some applications ask a question very much like this one regarding employment history and being let go with cause.
3. Have you ever been subject to discipline by a professional organization?
Would someone be willing to look at my Addendum to help me out? I've explained it out and feel that it might be too long. It's a page.
3. Have you ever been subject to discipline by a professional organization?
Would someone be willing to look at my Addendum to help me out? I've explained it out and feel that it might be too long. It's a page.
midwest17 wrote:What's the question you're answering?lilkrnq wrote:Thank you for the feedback thus far. Would elaboration be necessary as in would I need to explain the exact reporting situation?
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- midwest17

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Re: C&F Specifics
I may be wrong, but I wouldn't interpret this as covering being fired from a job. I read "professional organization" as referring to organizations analogous to the bar. But I may be wrong, and definitely don't take my word for it.lilkrnq wrote:Some applications ask a question very much like this one regarding employment history and being let go with cause.
3. Have you ever been subject to discipline by a professional organization?
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lilkrnq

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Re: C&F Specifics
Unfortunately the place of employment which I am referring to is technically considered a professional organization.
Thanks for pointing it out though.
Thanks for pointing it out though.
midwest17 wrote:I may be wrong, but I wouldn't interpret this as covering being fired from a job. I read "professional organization" as referring to organizations analogous to the bar. But I may be wrong, and definitely don't take my word for it.lilkrnq wrote:Some applications ask a question very much like this one regarding employment history and being let go with cause.
3. Have you ever been subject to discipline by a professional organization?
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