abroad grades count toward LSDAS GPA Forum

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2. Grades are first furnished on the overseas transcript, which doesn't use As Bs etc

5. But they will appear as letter grades (B+, A-, A--I didn't get these results but you get the idea)

That's really weird. Unfortunately, since the credits are assigned letter grades by your institution, it is very likely that they will be calculated in.

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Why do you say unfortunately? It could be fortunate (they could raise my gpa).

I assumed that if you're asking, you're trying to decide whether or not you need to send those transcripts in -- which means it's more likely it will hurt your overall GPA. Otherwise you'd just do it and hope they count.

"If you study abroad on a program sponsored by a US institution, your grades will be included in the calculation; if you study abroad for a year or less and the program is not sponsored by a US institution (for example, you're enrolled at Cambridge), your grades are not included in the calculation."

I can't find this policy anywhere on LSAC's website, and I did look... Are you sure this is recent information?

My only knowledge of study abroad applying to LSAC transcripts is that I had a some unconverted credits (i.e, no grade) that were given grades by my undergrad, and also marked as transfer credits. Those appeared on my LSAC report as factoring in. That's why I'm saying if your institution gives you letter grades where there weren't letter grades before, they will probably count (at least mine did.)

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4. Grades will appear on my home transcript. Doesn't count toward my home GPA.

Then they will be counted.

Edit: I'm gonna backpedal a bit. How did you apply to the program? How were the grades incorporated into your UG?

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4. Grades will appear on my home transcript. Doesn't count toward my home GPA.

Then they will be counted.

Edit: I'm gonna backpedal a bit. How did you apply to the program? How were the grades incorporated into your UG?

I applied directly to the other university's international office (i.e., they have an office that receives apps from international students). I also had to fill out some paperwork at my US UG so that my UG would pay that other university directly. The paperwork was also necessary for my UG to submit a letter of sorts to the other university. Matriculated as an official student.

This puts you firmly in the "who the fuck knows?" zone.
The fact your UG paid the seems like it would be dispositive.
It also makes me think you got fucked there, considering US tuition is usually significantly higher than at a foreign school.

Had your IG not been involved, the answer would be clear. Had they been more involved, it'd be clear. Based in this, only LSAT knows

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I applied directly to the other university's international office (i.e., they have an office that receives apps from international students). I also had to fill out some paperwork at my US UG so that my UG would pay that other university directly. The paperwork was also necessary for my UG to submit a letter of sorts to the other university. Matriculated as an official student.

This puts you firmly in the "who the fuck knows?" zone.
The fact your UG paid the seems like it would be dispositive.
It also makes me think you got fucked there, considering US tuition is usually significantly higher than at a foreign school.

Had your IG not been involved, the answer would be clear. Had they been more involved, it'd be clear. Based in this, only LSAT knows

Why would the fact that my UG paid be dispositive?

Also, my UG was involved but I'm pretty sure most if not all of the paperwork was to ensure that I understood the financial consequences of withdrawing from the abroad university after my UG had already paid. It was also to ensure that the grades are transferrable back (this should make it obvious my UG didn't run the program).

Like I said in the OP, I've called already. They said probably not, but they said they can't be sure until they receive my transcripts. Hence why I'm here asking if anyone else has done a similar thing (directly enrolled in a foreign institution). According to the Ivey site (and most other people I've spoken to who have done this), most Oxbridge programs are like this. I'm not saying I did Oxbridge (I may or may not have), but there has to be some people here who have done Oxbridge.

What I tried to say is that normally the involvement of a US institution would be dispositive, but in your case it might not be.
If even LSAC doesn't know, no one here can tell you. There's a clear line that separates whether it would or would not be included, but you're right on top of that line. I know the rules and all, but your explanation is such that I can't tell which side of the line you're on.

Sorry, but, you're gonna have to find out the hard way

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but what ppl here can tell me is what happened when they were in a similar situation like o
direct enrollment @ oxbridge

I had direct enrollment and my grades were not included in LSGPA.
However, no US institution was involved whatsoever.

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