LSAC gpa grading Forum

[meanmugger]

I have a friend who's a supposed to be graduating in 2014 of this year. His gpa is roughly a 3.4 cumulative. He's pretty set on CCN at a minimum and so wants to take CC classes for about a year to get his gpa up to around a 3.6 - 3.7 and sit out applying to schools during the fall 2014 cycle and instead apply a year later (fall 2015).

Will lsac count any CC classes he does after he completes the credits for his major(s), or is it only after he actually walks at graduation and has his actual degree in hand? In other words, he doesn't want to complete all the requirements for his major before Spring of 2014 if lsac will then mark him as having received his undergraduate degree during this time (thus rendering any CC classes he wants to take meaningless). He's willing to intentionally delay a credit or two for his major if this is the case so he can take CC classes during this time and have them actually count towards his LSAC gpa. Ideally he would just complete the major on time but then not receive his actual degree until a year later after he takes CC classes. Would lsac let him do this?

[jbagelboy]

LSAC will count all college level courses taken prior to receiving his degree, i.e. walking and getting the BA or BS itself. Completing required major classes is not the same thing as graduating; if necessary (the school has a bizarre policy that pushes him/her out when major is complete), he/she can always add on another minor and take courses to complete it.

[MyNameIsFlynn!]

a) graduating in 2014 of this year?

b) CCN will be probably be maximum, not minimum. Y and S are out, and H is probably out below 3.7. If " your friend" gets his GPA up to 3.7, H might happen with a 175+

[meanmugger]

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[meanmugger]

a) graduating in 2014 of this year?

Graduating in spring of 2014.

b) CCN will be probably be maximum, not minimum. Y and S are out, and H is probably out below 3.7. If " your friend" gets his GPA up to 3.7, H might happen with a 175+

Understandable. He most likely won't even apply to Y or S, but will throw up an app to H if he gets a 177 or 178ish lsat and around a 3.7 gpa.

c) classes don't count toward your LSAC GPA after the degree is awarded. At most schools, you get your degree upon completing your major. You can't tell the school to hold off on awarding your degree once you fulfill all the requirements. You could add another major or something, though

I assumed so. I just didn't want him to be in a position where he takes CC classes that end up not counting towards his LSAC gpa because he didn't delay a credit or two in order to graduate later than expected.

[MyNameIsFlynn!]

a) graduating in 2014 of this year?

Graduating in spring of 2014.

b) CCN will be probably be maximum, not minimum. Y and S are out, and H is probably out below 3.7. If " your friend" gets his GPA up to 3.7, H might happen with a 175+

Understandable. He most likely won't even apply to Y or S, but will throw up an app to H if he gets a 177 or 178ish lsat and around a 3.7 gpa.

c) classes don't count toward your LSAC GPA after the degree is awarded. At most schools, you get your degree upon completing your major. You can't tell the school to hold off on awarding your degree once you fulfill all the requirements. You could add another major or something, though

I assumed so. I just didn't want him to be in a position where he takes CC classes that end up not counting towards his LSAC gpa because he didn't delay a credit or two in order to graduate later than expected.

Yea. This last part is really easy to get around. Just hold off on a PE requirement or some other mandatory class until your last term, or add a new major/minor. Then you should be able to hold off on having your degree awarded

[20141023]

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[meanmugger]

Let's say your friend "graduates" (=reaches 120 credit hours) by the summer of 2014 with a 3.4 GPA. Even if he took easy classes at a local community college and got all A's, 2 semesters (15 credits * 2 = 30 credit hours) would only raise his GPA up to a 3.52. Even if that community college gives A+'s, the highest he could get is a 3.59. If he took summer courses for an additional 9 credits, he would still only be able to attain a 3.55 with all A's and an 3.63 with all A+'s.

He's planning on doing an entire calendar year of classes, not school year. In other words, he's planning on doing the summer semester of 2014, the fall semester of 2014, the spring semester of 2015, and the summer semester of 2015 with 16 credit hours for each semester.

[MyNameIsFlynn!]

Let's say your friend "graduates" (=reaches 120 credit hours) by the summer of 2014 with a 3.4 GPA. Even if he took easy classes at a local community college and got all A's, 2 semesters (15 credits * 2 = 30 credit hours) would only raise his GPA up to a 3.52. Even if that community college gives A+'s, the highest he could get is a 3.59. If he took summer courses for an additional 9 credits, he would still only be able to attain a 3.55 with all A's and an 3.63 with all A+'s.

He's planning on doing an entire calendar year of classes, not school year. In other words, he's planning on doing the summer semester of 2014, the fall semester of 2014, the spring semester of 2015, and the summer semester of 2015 with 16 credit hours for each semester.

btw you can drop the friend schtick. No shame in playing the game

[meanmugger]

Let's say your friend "graduates" (=reaches 120 credit hours) by the summer of 2014 with a 3.4 GPA. Even if he took easy classes at a local community college and got all A's, 2 semesters (15 credits * 2 = 30 credit hours) would only raise his GPA up to a 3.52. Even if that community college gives A+'s, the highest he could get is a 3.59. If he took summer courses for an additional 9 credits, he would still only be able to attain a 3.55 with all A's and an 3.63 with all A+'s.

He's planning on doing an entire calendar year of classes, not school year. In other words, he's planning on doing the summer semester of 2014, the fall semester of 2014, the spring semester of 2015, and the summer semester of 2015 with 16 credit hours for each semester.

btw you can drop the friend schtick. No shame in playing the game

I'm actually being completely serious, but w/e. Believe whatever.

[CyanIdes Of March]

Let's say your friend "graduates" (=reaches 120 credit hours) by the summer of 2014 with a 3.4 GPA. Even if he took easy classes at a local community college and got all A's, 2 semesters (15 credits * 2 = 30 credit hours) would only raise his GPA up to a 3.52. Even if that community college gives A+'s, the highest he could get is a 3.59. If he took summer courses for an additional 9 credits, he would still only be able to attain a 3.55 with all A's and an 3.63 with all A+'s.

He's planning on doing an entire calendar year of classes, not school year. In other words, he's planning on doing the summer semester of 2014, the fall semester of 2014, the spring semester of 2015, and the summer semester of 2015 with 16 credit hours for each semester.

btw you can drop the friend schtick. No shame in playing the game

I'm actually being completely serious, but w/e. Believe whatever.

Lol, you seem to know a lot of personal and random details about your "friend" if that's truly the case. For the record, I think you're full of it but you aren't the first to try.

[20141023]

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[rftdd888]

yeah, once you get close to 90, 120 hours you can't really raise your GPA from that low. i had a better GPA with fewer B's and still had a practical 3.75 ceiling because at a certain point even entire semesters of perfect grades won't boost the GPA that high.

you're looking at best getting slightly higher, to 3.5 maybe. CCN would def be at the top of your list, but you would need a stellar lsat. it's hard to imagine getting your GPA even as high as 3.55, and even 3.7 would not be enough for H absent a 175 or 176 probably.