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2014 ABA-LSAC Official Guide to Law Schools now Available!

Post by justonemoregame » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:04 pm

Sorry if posted previously, but the new guide is up at LSAC:

https://officialguide.lsac.org/release/ ... fault.aspx

Lots of awesome info in here. Like, did you know 9 people transferred IN to Cooley last year? I didn't think so.

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Post by RhymesLikeDimes » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:08 pm

Officially above 25th GPA at Columbia

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Post by justonemoregame » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:29 pm

I'd like to see a comparison of the past 3 years' class sizes. LST has the previous 2, maybe they will add this data soon. Some of these schools have had crazy enrollment drops. Seton Hall went from 358 to 266 to 196 for fall 2012. And many others, gotta leave work..../

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Post by bombaysippin » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:00 pm

Damn...going through some of the schools I had print outs for since last year, I was hoping everything from GPA medians and such would decrease, but it seems some schools increased in everything! wtf lol. At least some LSAT medians decreased.

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Post by nothingtosee » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:09 pm

Bajam wrote:Damn...going through some of the schools I had print outs for since last year, I was hoping everything from GPA medians and such would decrease, but it seems some schools increased in everything! wtf lol. At least some LSAT medians decreased.
Where are you seeing medians? I'm only seeing 25/75's

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Post by justonemoregame » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:17 pm

TJSL lost 55 students, LSAT median 151 to 148, lol.

# of 1Ls at Cooley the past three years: 1583-1161-867

Can someone tell me if the transfer data is included in the attrition data? Surely it is

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Post by justonemoregame » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:18 pm

nothingtosee wrote:
Bajam wrote:Damn...going through some of the schools I had print outs for since last year, I was hoping everything from GPA medians and such would decrease, but it seems some schools increased in everything! wtf lol. At least some LSAT medians decreased.
Where are you seeing medians? I'm only seeing 25/75's
Click on a school, then hit the "ABA Law School Data" tab at the right -- shows you all kinds of stuff

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Post by Lumieres » Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:02 am

Wait... So does this data include application info from the cycle that just passed and the incoming students this fall?

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Post by Lavitz » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:01 am

Lumieres wrote:Wait... So does this data include application info from the cycle that just passed and the incoming students this fall?
No, it's from the students who started in Fall 2012.

A lot of the information was already compiled in this spreadsheet.

C/O 2016 medians / class sizes won't leak until mid-August.

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Post by RetakeFrenzy » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:35 am

Thank you for letting us know!

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Post by Lavitz » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:12 am

sublime wrote:Aaaaaaaand I am still below Harvard's 25% GPA by .03. Damn it.
You're applying next cycle?

Once again, these are not the numbers that the schools will be using as benchmarks next cycle. They'll be using the numbers from the incoming class which they won't even have finalized until classes begin.

Granted, Harvard's GPA 25th only declined .01 from c/o 2014 to c/o 2015, so I'm not sure how likely it is that it'll drop .03 for c/o 2016. But really, the 25th doesn't matter all that much.

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Post by Lavitz » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:24 am

sublime wrote: Yea, next cycle. And I know, although like you said, it is unlikely that it will drop that low anyway. And that it doesn't really matter. I am at or slightly above their non URM floor, so regardless, I would need a 175 (their 75th) or better to even be competitive and that is unlikely by itself.

Encouraging to see CLS and NYU's median GPA's drop a bit.

I should be more concerned with getting a high score on the LSAT right now anyway instead of worrying about what ifs.
Yeah, a 175/3.74 should have a good chance. Good luck!

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Post by SPerez » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:15 pm

justonemoregame wrote:Can someone tell me if the transfer data is included in the attrition data? Surely it is
It is, but if you go to the PDF for each school you will see Transfers In/Out broken out in a separate section. In the attrition section, it also breaks out Academic and "Other" attrition.

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