Another way to think about rankings Forum
- PDaddy
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Another way to think about rankings
The Washington Monthly makes a compelling argument that we value the wrong qualities in schools and thus misapply ratings and rankings. I think the argument applies to graduate and professional schools by extension.
Check out this article:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/h ... brank.html
Here is the full ranking:
http://washingtonmonthly.com/college_gu ... y_rank.php
Check out this article:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/h ... brank.html
Here is the full ranking:
http://washingtonmonthly.com/college_gu ... y_rank.php
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
According to these rankings, I went to the number one undergrad in the nation. I'll take it lol
- Yardbird
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
Their ranking is skewed...they rank for research based on the number of PhD's awarded in certain subject areas. Some schools just have more PhD slots than others, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are better for research. The quality of some of the PhD programs ranked high because of the raw number of PhD'ers is way less than some of the other PhD programs present on the list further down. Just food for thought.PDaddy wrote:The Washington Monthly makes a compelling argument that we value the wrong qualities in schools and thus misapply ratings and rankings. I think the argument applies to graduate and professional schools by extension.
Check out this article:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/h ... brank.html
Here is the full ranking:
http://washingtonmonthly.com/college_gu ... y_rank.php
- Tom Joad
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
Well that is pretty stupid.
- Bildungsroman
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
Agreed. I'd rather value schools by something like employment outcomes and cost, rather than these bullshit categories.Tom Joad wrote:Well that is pretty stupid.
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- Ixiion
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
Yeah, pretty much BS. But it is cool to finally see my UG on a top 100 list, lmao. It's normally in the top 150s. So, hey, awesome. And no, I clearly didn't choose my UG based on rankings. I chose it because its campus was beautiful..... don't ask. I ended up paying over 30k a year for a pretty campus, lmao.PDaddy wrote:The Washington Monthly makes a compelling argument that we value the wrong qualities in schools and thus misapply ratings and rankings. I think the argument applies to graduate and professional schools by extension.
Check out this article:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/h ... brank.html
Here is the full ranking:
http://washingtonmonthly.com/college_gu ... y_rank.php
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- Yardbird
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
My school got killed because of its cost of attendance...just because it's expensive doesn't mean it's a bad school. If anything, it's more of an investment because you have more opportunities coming out of my undergrad than almost 75% of the schools ranked ahead of it on this list.Bildungsroman wrote:Agreed. I'd rather value schools by something like employment outcomes and cost, rather than these bullshit categories.Tom Joad wrote:Well that is pretty stupid.
- 2014
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
My UG is a solid 25 spots lower on that list, thus it is stupid.
- wolf
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
I can't believe my UG is #2. This is such BS, but funny.
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
+1Bildungsroman wrote:Agreed. I'd rather value schools by something like employment outcomes and cost, rather than these bullshit categories.Tom Joad wrote:Well that is pretty stupid.
- heywatchitbuddy
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
Yeah I got into Princeton and MIT, but decided to go to UT El Paso because they were ranked higher. Thanks Washington Monthly.
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
Another way to think about rankings: don't.
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
ROTC rank? Are you fucking kidding me?
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
You seem angry.mr.hands wrote:ROTC rank? Are you fucking kidding me?
Very interesting. Obviously, more conventional rankings better correlate with actual employment outcomes and the like, which I think is a bit more pertinent.
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- bjsesq
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
Right up there with Cooley as far as focusing on shit that actually matters to prospectives.
- laxbrah420
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
Schools should be ranked to answer, "where should I go" --not which is best for the public
This is dumb.

This is dumb.
- Yardbird
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
I think he's upset that someone would rank one ROTC program over another? Isn't the whole motto "An Army of One."T14hoping wrote:You seem angry.mr.hands wrote:ROTC rank? Are you fucking kidding me?
Very interesting. Obviously, more conventional rankings better correlate with actual employment outcomes and the like, which I think is a bit more pertinent.
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- CyanIdes Of March
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
Texas A&M better than Stanford and all Ivy... no.
Seems like an arbitrary/silly way to rank a university considering, by this system, Patriotism and being on the Class borders are valued most highly. But to be fair, they aren't trying to claim their ranking system should replace conventional ranking systems, rather this is just another way to rank colleges.
Seems like an arbitrary/silly way to rank a university considering, by this system, Patriotism and being on the Class borders are valued most highly. But to be fair, they aren't trying to claim their ranking system should replace conventional ranking systems, rather this is just another way to rank colleges.
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- IAFG
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Re: Another way to think about rankings
Ivory tower shitboomers will find any contorted way to avoid discussing placement power. Disgusting.
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