Ranking of T14, from most to least prestigious Forum

[Neander]

Today I was discussing law schools with my parents. After dropping serveral extremely good law school names, they seemed unimpressed (UPenn, Duke, UVA, UMich). My dad was like, "If you get into Georgetown, you will go there over UVA!"

Is this mismatch between actual rankings and lay people's prestige rankings typical? I obviously won't let it affect what school I inevitably choose, but it was pretty striking to me (hence this post).

P.S.: If any of you want to make a prestige list of the T14, feel free. I'm actually pretty interested.

[3ThrowAway99]

love these lay prestige threads.. YESSSSSSSSSSS

[cynthia rose]

In before the ton of sarcastic "no, this has NEVER been discussed before!" comments.

And yes, this is typical. Lay prestige never matches up with actual prestige within law. And also, it varies by region.

[Neander]

love these lay prestige threads.. YESSSSSSSSSSS

Why I am a noobie? Do they usually devolve into flame wars?

[rayiner]

Today I was discussing law schools with my parents. After dropping serveral extremely good law school names, they seemed unimpressed (UPenn, Duke, UVA, UMich). My dad was like, "If you get into Georgetown, you will go there over UVA!"

Is this mismatch between actual rankings and lay people's prestige rankings typical? I obviously won't let it affect what school I inevitably choose, but it was pretty striking to me (hence this post).

P.S.: If any of you want to make a prestige list of the T14, feel free. I'm actually pretty interested.

Asian/Indian?

[Neander]

Today I was discussing law schools with my parents. After dropping serveral extremely good law school names, they seemed unimpressed (UPenn, Duke, UVA, UMich). My dad was like, "If you get into Georgetown, you will go there over UVA!"

Is this mismatch between actual rankings and lay people's prestige rankings typical? I obviously won't let it affect what school I inevitably choose, but it was pretty striking to me (hence this post).

P.S.: If any of you want to make a prestige list of the T14, feel free. I'm actually pretty interested.

Asian/Indian?

Close. We are Greek (see my tar). But Greek immigrant families are pretty neurotic too.

[3ThrowAway99]

Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Chicago
Stanford
Georgetown
Cornell
Duke
Northwestern
....

Michigan?
Virginia?
NYU?


Yeah, I said that. We are talking lay prestige ppl.

[PaulKriske]

Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Chicago
Stanford
Georgetown
Cornell
Duke
Northwestern
....

Michigan?
Virginia?
NYU?


Yeah, I said that. We are talking lay prestige ppl.

yeah right, cornell is that high.

[Neander]

Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Chicago
Stanford
Georgetown
Cornell
Duke
Northwestern
....

Michigan?
Virginia?
NYU?


Yeah, I said that. We are talking lay prestige ppl.

Not sure if I agree with Columbia and Chicago being more prestigious than Stanford or with Georgetown being more prestigious than Duke.

[3ThrowAway99]

Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Chicago
Stanford
Georgetown
Cornell
Duke
Northwestern
....

Michigan?
Virginia?
NYU?


Yeah, I said that. We are talking lay prestige ppl.

yeah right, cornell is that high.

In lay prestige, any Ivy kicks the shit out of NYU, Michigan, Virginia...

[fanmingrui]

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[laxbrah420]

As a lay person myself, here's my list:

Yale
Harvard
Stanford
Chicago
Columbia
UPenn
NYU
Cornell
Georgetown
Northwestern
Berkeley
Virginia
Michigan
Duke

[smaug_]

first of all this is HYS>>>>anything else, but

HYS
Duke
Columbia
Georgetown
Penn
UVA
Mich
Cornell
NU
NYU

EDIT: I guess I should put Cal at the bottom because I'm most likely to forget about it.

[3ThrowAway99]

Harvard
Yale
Columbia
Chicago
Stanford
Georgetown
Cornell
Duke
Northwestern
....

Michigan?
Virginia?
NYU?


Yeah, I said that. We are talking lay prestige ppl.

Not sure if I agree with Columbia and Chicago being more prestigious than Stanford or with Georgetown being more prestigious than Duke.

Just sayin'.... before I started seriously looking at law schools, although I thought of Stanford as overall very prefstigious I didn't even know Stanford Law existed.

[3ThrowAway99]

first of all this is HYS>>>>anything else, but

HYS
Duke
Columbia
Georgetown
Penn
UVA
Mich
Cornell
NU
NYU

From the SE USA?

[smaug_]

From the Great Lakes, actually.

[Neander]

Mine:
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Columbia
UPenn
Duke
Cornell
Northwestern
Georgetown
Chicago
Berkeley
NYU
Virginia
Michigan

[laxbrah420]

welp, I think we've established in a short number of posts that since there isn't agreement within the lay community pertaining to prestige, fuck it.

[3ThrowAway99]

From the Great Lakes, actually.

Nice. Surpised that ppl from other regions think Duke is so prestigious. Never thought of it that way before (From NE originally).

[3ThrowAway99]

Mine:
Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Columbia
UPenn
Duke
Cornell
Northwestern
Georgetown
Chicago
Berkeley
NYU
Virginia
Michigan

I can basically agree with that, although I think U Chicago has more lay prestige than most ppl give it credit for.

[Neander]

From the Great Lakes, actually.

Nice. Surpised that ppl from other regions think Duke is so prestigious. Never thought of it that way before (From NE originally).

I live in the NE and see Duke as being the most prestigious non-ivy behind Stanford MIT and Caltech.

Definitely have always viewed Duke as more prestigious than Cornell and Dartmouth but behind all the other ivies.

[Chucky21]

From the Great Lakes, actually.

Nice. Surpised that ppl from other regions think Duke is so prestigious. Never thought of it that way before (From NE originally).

Same, I never thought of it that way either... still don't, but I understand the legal eduaction is great there... but then so is the education from other T 14s.

[laxbrah420]

I sort of like this methodology:
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[bernaldiaz]

first of all this is HYS>>>>anything else, but

HYS
Duke
Columbia
Georgetown
Penn
UVA
Mich
Cornell
NU
NYU

Duke that hight? I'd say it looks something like this.

Harvard
Yale
Stanford
Columbia
Penn
Georgetown
Berkeley
NYU
Duke
Cornell
Chicago
Northwestern
UVA
Michigan

[Neander]

Other than Duke, what other schools vary widly in peoples' prestige conceptions?