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Lifestyle- Big law hours. Each firm has different personalities (some stuffier than others)MD to JD wrote:I like this idea. I always thought JD was > MBA for this pathway, but I am going to seriously research this route as well.abc12345675 wrote:
I'm telling you, the MBA is THE way to go for you. Ace the GMAT, go to a top business school, use your past experience to get into the healthcare group at Goldman, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan, Credit Suisse, or Lazard. Enjoy bigger pay, better shot at London/Hong Kong, and more client interaction
It will cost me 550-600k per year in lost income for the MBA, but I have enough saved to cover most of the living/tuition, I'd wager.
What's the lifestyle/income/career track of one of the MBA healthcare group types at those places?
Income- Depends on how your group performs. For example, the top guy at Goldman's healthcare group probably pulled in $6 million last year, all the way down to say $300k. But if you have a big year, you get a big bonus. Higher income upside by far than with law
Career track- Perform, get promoted rapidly. Don't make money, don't get promoted
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You can work full time and get an MBA at the same time.MD to JD wrote:I like this idea. I always thought JD was > MBA for this pathway, but I am going to seriously research this route as well.abc12345675 wrote:
I'm telling you, the MBA is THE way to go for you. Ace the GMAT, go to a top business school, use your past experience to get into the healthcare group at Goldman, Morgan Stanley, JP Morgan, Credit Suisse, or Lazard. Enjoy bigger pay, better shot at London/Hong Kong, and more client interaction
It will cost me 550-600k per year in lost income for the MBA, but I have enough saved to cover most of the living/tuition, I'd wager.
What's the lifestyle/income/career track of one of the MBA healthcare group types at those places?
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I get where you're coming from. Boredom. Wanting a new challenge. Etc.
I'd say go for it. Also consider taking time off to travel - it sounds like you are financially capable of doing that + it would give you some time to "sleep on" the decision in a fun way, or wait for application decisions to come out. Have some fun before entering the new market
But if you do law school, that's about $1.5 million in losses (since you said you're making around 500,000 a year right?). That's a LOT of money....
I'd say go for it. Also consider taking time off to travel - it sounds like you are financially capable of doing that + it would give you some time to "sleep on" the decision in a fun way, or wait for application decisions to come out. Have some fun before entering the new market
But if you do law school, that's about $1.5 million in losses (since you said you're making around 500,000 a year right?). That's a LOT of money....
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Watch what you see on the internets. Some people, a few had posted here, have real life experience, and most will be pretending to know what you are talking about, and I doubt most of those even graduated yet.
It's an interesting decision, and I see the motivation that is in between the lines for a career change. However, no matter the field you might be pondering being at the top of your game, and going back to entry level.
I think the question you need is not that will schools want to accept you, it's that post graduation, will the high paying international firms like your background and diploma. I wonder if you can find and ask the horses mouth.
If it were me, I'd personally see if I can become a consultant, and just retire. Even if it were appealed.
It's an interesting decision, and I see the motivation that is in between the lines for a career change. However, no matter the field you might be pondering being at the top of your game, and going back to entry level.
I think the question you need is not that will schools want to accept you, it's that post graduation, will the high paying international firms like your background and diploma. I wonder if you can find and ask the horses mouth.
If it were me, I'd personally see if I can become a consultant, and just retire. Even if it were appealed.
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Update -
I've been thinking alot over the last year about career change.
I honestly believe that medicine has about 5 years left for most docs, 10 years top for the elite in our fields. After that, money goes, quality goes, and the whole system shuts down to a default worse than NHS.
My career continues to blossom, and I suppose there are worst things than making 600-700k/year over the next 10 years.
After that, ill drive a taxi. Socialized medicine can figure things out without the best.
Thanks again to all. Not flame, just wanted to update.
I've been thinking alot over the last year about career change.
I honestly believe that medicine has about 5 years left for most docs, 10 years top for the elite in our fields. After that, money goes, quality goes, and the whole system shuts down to a default worse than NHS.
My career continues to blossom, and I suppose there are worst things than making 600-700k/year over the next 10 years.
After that, ill drive a taxi. Socialized medicine can figure things out without the best.
Thanks again to all. Not flame, just wanted to update.
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I didn't know that Sean Hannity trolled TLS boards.MD to JD wrote:Update -
I've been thinking alot over the last year about career change.
I honestly believe that medicine has about 5 years left for most docs, 10 years top for the elite in our fields. After that, money goes, quality goes, and the whole system shuts down to a default worse than NHS.
My career continues to blossom, and I suppose there are worst things than making 600-700k/year over the next 10 years.
After that, ill drive a taxi. Socialized medicine can figure things out without the best.
Thanks again to all. Not flame, just wanted to update.
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Yeah, the OP strikes me as super tacky. None of the doctors I know, including my wife, are this self important and entitled.
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This was obvious conservatroll from the beginning, can't believe everyone missed it.
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It was pretty well played. He slow rolled the blatant wing nutting for almost a yearphillywc wrote:This was obvious conservatroll from the beginning, can't believe everyone missed it.
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But OP really stunk like BS from the beginning lol. I couldn't believe reading the thread any of you even wasted your time responding to this buffoon. He never even told us his GPA and clearly never behaved like an elite specialist MD. And his healthcare system comments clearly outed him as a jackass lol
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No troll here.
I appreciate some of the earlier posts in terms of encouragement and advice-
The last few posters seem to be bitter folks with no knowledge of the effects obamacare is already having on medicine. Why is it so hard to believe that the elite of medicine are fleeing elsewhere, especially the younger ones?
Medicine is much more stable and profitable, in general, as compared to law. However, there are tiers in medicine, just as in law - the highest ends of law beat the highest ends in medicine, unfortunately.
Thanks again to all for advice.
Would a 170+ LSAT, with my background, guarantee me a spot at HYS?
I appreciate some of the earlier posts in terms of encouragement and advice-
The last few posters seem to be bitter folks with no knowledge of the effects obamacare is already having on medicine. Why is it so hard to believe that the elite of medicine are fleeing elsewhere, especially the younger ones?
Medicine is much more stable and profitable, in general, as compared to law. However, there are tiers in medicine, just as in law - the highest ends of law beat the highest ends in medicine, unfortunately.
Thanks again to all for advice.
Would a 170+ LSAT, with my background, guarantee me a spot at HYS?
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What is your undergrad GPA? Almost no one is a guarantee at Yale or Stanford. The few people I've seen who are locks have resumes that blow yours out of the water. I'm talking truly exceptional people who are also excellent students. Harvard will still care about your numbers as far as I know. Hard to tell without knowing what your numbers are.
I think you are making a huge mistake if you are comparing what biglaw partners make to what doctors might or might not make. The chance of becoming a partner is very small. The life you will have to live to get to that point is extremely demanding.
Is money your main motivation? You seem obsessed with it. This attitude will not help you in biglaw. The money is never enough.
I think you are making a huge mistake if you are comparing what biglaw partners make to what doctors might or might not make. The chance of becoming a partner is very small. The life you will have to live to get to that point is extremely demanding.
Is money your main motivation? You seem obsessed with it. This attitude will not help you in biglaw. The money is never enough.
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No. Your background will matter very little. If your undergrad GPA is <3.8, you can essentially forget about Y and S no matter what you get on the LSAT. If it's under a 3.7, you will need a 177+ to have a good shot at H. If it's <3.6, you would have little shot at H with any LSAT score.MD to JD wrote:Would a 170+ LSAT, with my background, guarantee me a spot at HYS?
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This. Everyone wants to make a comfortable living, but OP strikes me as incredibly greedy, not to mention arrogant as all hell. Assuming this isn't Roger Ailes' troll account, it's very off putting. "Hurr, I only want to go to law school if I can be at the 'top of my game', doing corporate work in Hong Kong. Any other legal work is beneath me. Military medicine is beneath me. I won't get out of bed for less than 500k a year. Will Yale just admit me immediately, or will they also give me a blowjob in recognition of my awesomeness? Thanks OBAMA!"NYstate wrote: Is money your main motivation? You seem obsessed with it. This attitude will not help you in biglaw. The money is never enough.
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I love how the OP goes "no, I'm really not a troll", and everyone proceeds to believe this complete bullshit story. I hope everyone is just extremely bored, because the chances of this thread being legit have to be better than UCI cracking the T20 (sorry UCI. I had to put some type of shitty law school joke in there and UCI is the fall-back).
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OP was actually doing fairly well till "socialized medicine" slipped out. I preferred the more subtle anti-Obamacare hints in the earlier pages, but that's me.
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Takes alot of courage to follow your dreams/personal growth from our places in life.
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