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Re: Proposed ABA changes - Too rational to be true?

Post by HBK » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:12 pm

"The current proposal would also require a law school to post the bar passage rates and employment outcomes of its graduates by job status and employment type, including the number of graduates working in jobs requiring a law degree and the number of those who are not; and the number of unemployed graduates who are and who are not seeking work."

Anyone wanna place bets on which schools give out the most MRS degrees?

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Re: Proposed ABA changes - Too rational to be true?

Post by baconpuffs » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:16 pm

It would be nice if the ABA also had some sort of random audit of these numbers (or, even better, a full audit of every school, but that won't happen) so that we won't have another Villanovagate. Even still, though, this is a much needed first step towards LS transparency. Here's to hoping the ABA goes through with it.

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Re: Proposed ABA changes - Too rational to be true?

Post by AntipodeanPhil » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:17 pm

Meh - the schools will just find a new way to game the system. They'll have to be a bit cleverer this time, but I'm sure they'll work something out.

IMO, the only way to solve this problem would be to do what some humanities graduate programs do now: publish a document with each graduate's employment status. They wouldn't have to provide the graduate's name, just the job title and employer.

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Re: Proposed ABA changes - Too rational to be true?

Post by Elston Gunn » Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:32 pm

"The current proposal would also require a law school to post the bar passage rates and employment outcomes of its graduates by job status and employment type, including the number of graduates working in jobs requiring a law degree and the number of those who are not; and the number of unemployed graduates who are and who are not seeking work....Both proposals would also require law schools to disclose how many graduates are working in full-time or part-time jobs, whether those jobs are short-term or long-term and how many of them are funded by the school from which the job-holder graduated."

As long as the schools aren't allowed to lump JD preferred (I don't really even know what this is, but I guess it exists--lobbying, for instance?) and we-don't-care-if-you-have-a JD jobs together (i.e. Starbucks), then this seems like a BIG step. Yeah, it still might not tell us how many grads are working for 1-866-ACCIDENTES, but it will tell you about how many are doing contract doc review, and how many are really getting no benefit from their JD. Sounds great if it happens.

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