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18488 · Post by **18488** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:56 am

gave me 163, got 166. pretty close

phillyphanatic · Post by **phillyphanatic** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:31 am

Overestimated my LSAT score by .85. That's pretty sweet. And pithy, the formula says a 1350 should get you a 165.

riccardo426 · Post by **riccardo426** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:02 am

Says my 1470 (750v, 720m) translates to a 171. I sure hope so!

But that margin of error (+/- 5) is huge.

rhit2004 · Post by **rhit2004** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:29 am

Could not have been closer
SAT: 1380 -> Predicted LSAT 166.7 -> Actual LSAT 167

Pyke · Post by **Pyke** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:35 am

I scored a 1260 on my SAT (no prep, took it for fun).

That translates to a 161 on the formulaic version, +/- 5.

(1260/21) + 101.

I scored a 166, with virtually no prep, on the LSAT. I suppose in that sense it's accurate. The retake (with prep but with misbubbling) I scored 163.

Now it's worth noting here, that this formula would likely be MORE accurate if it was based on mental ability.

The problem is, both tests are crackable with sufficient studying meaning that you throw off the curve.

Potential1L · Post by **Potential1L** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:36 am

says i shoulda gotten a 172.4 or so

to use edgarderby's phrasing:

I GOT LUCKY SON

lizzy1280 · Post by **lizzy1280** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:10 pm

wow, says i should have gotten a 173, got a 176. since i didn't care very much about the SATs, pretty close.

clio2007 · Post by **clio2007** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:17 pm

Go Bears · Post by **Go Bears** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:22 pm

High school slacker here.

Predicted: 161

Actual: 169

God I get pissed at myself sometimes for my youthful stubborness.

Fly · Post by **Fly** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:31 pm

This was dead on for my average practice LSAT score (171). Too bad I didn't manage that on actual test day...

tmo · Post by **tmo** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:35 pm

Wow, mine was dead on.

nipplehead · Post by **nipplehead** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:07 pm

says i should have gotten a 175, got a 177

not bad, pretty close

wesleybs · Post by **wesleybs** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:48 pm

According to this formula I should have scored 12 points lower on the LSAT.

Chanelgirl · Post by **Chanelgirl** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:59 pm

I don't suppose that the formula would still make sense for people who took their SAT barely knowing English at the time? It's been 5 years or so, and now I am fluent. I don't suppose it would work for people like myself?

OldBlue · Post by **OldBlue** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:51 pm

^^^ I think that's a fair assumption.

To anyone who hasn't taken the test yet: I would not put ANY stock in this formula; just study your asses off like you know you should.

On the other hand, its pinpoint accuracy for a huge number of people is... well, kinda creepy.

RE: awesome's drop-the-zero-add-a-one conversion. The LSAT's overlap with the Verbal section is pretty clear. But I think the Math section could be an important indicator, as the logic games rely on similar skills.

idrinkcoffee · Post by **idrinkcoffee** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:13 pm

Wow. Mine was almost spot-on for my first LSAT, but ten points off for my second one.

I wouldn't use this as a "predictor," but it is kind of fun.

gravity · Post by **gravity** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:38 pm

cool... off by 1 point for me

awesomerossum · Post by **awesomerossum** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:58 pm

"RE: awesome's drop-the-zero-add-a-one conversion. The LSAT's overlap with the Verbal section is pretty clear. But I think the Math section could be an important indicator, as the logic games rely on similar skills.
"

I dunno. The SAT I math is ridiculously easy. In fact, an 800 is around the 86th percentile!

Kohinoor · Post by **Kohinoor** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:15 am

awesomerossum wrote:"RE: awesome's drop-the-zero-add-a-one conversion. The LSAT's overlap with the Verbal section is pretty clear. But I think the Math section could be an important indicator, as the logic games rely on similar skills.
"

I dunno. The SAT I math is ridiculously easy. In fact, an 800 is around the 86th percentile!

That couldn't possibly be right.

::edit::Yeah, that's wrong. If you think about it, it makes no sense for them to design a test that is unable to distinguish among the top 14% of student. If an 800 was at the 86th percentile, they'd redesign the test.

http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downlo ... Groups.pdf

rayiner · Post by **rayiner** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:25 am

Kohinoor wrote:
awesomerossum wrote:"RE: awesome's drop-the-zero-add-a-one conversion. The LSAT's overlap with the Verbal section is pretty clear. But I think the Math section could be an important indicator, as the logic games rely on similar skills.
"

I dunno. The SAT I math is ridiculously easy. In fact, an 800 is around the 86th percentile!

That couldn't possibly be right.

::edit::Yeah, that's wrong. If you think about it, it makes no sense for them to design a test that is unable to distinguish among the top 14% of student. If an 800 was at the 86th percentile, they'd redesign the test.

http://www.collegeboard.com/prod_downlo ... Groups.pdf

Dude, it's been almost 2 years.

Post by **OperaSoprano** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:33 am

awesomerossum wrote:Sorry, I use a different formula for calculating SAT-LSAT correlation. My old tutor said that one's starting point should be the verbal score with the last zero removed and a one added to the front.

I scored an 800 on the verbal. Technically, I should've started from a 180.

Goddamnit. Goddamnit! Why did I have to fuck up the LSAT so badly?

My score was predicted exactly by the OP's formula, but if this works too, I could have done a lot better.

Disclaimer: My SAT prep probably sucked even more than my LSAT prep. Actually, it was kind of nonexistent.

23fulltimecowboys · Post by **23fulltimecowboys** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:37 am

dead on.

Dtackpat75 · Post by **Dtackpat75** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:38 am

Predicted: 162

Actual: 174

I didn't try very hard in HS :shock:

Post by **Helmholtz** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:50 am

Mine was about ten points off.

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