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JamMasterJ · Post by **JamMasterJ** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:28 pm

Opie wrote:Being so young, you may want to look at another graduate degree or getting some work experience before law school. OR if you do go into law school right away, maybe look at an LL.M. so that you won't be 22 and looking for a legal job. It shouldn't matter, but I'm afraid it will. I hate it when my doctor looks like he's 12, but I don't think I'd even hire a lawyer that I thought was young and inexperienced. It's stupid, but I'm sure it happens.

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cinephile · Post by **cinephile** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 8:11 pm

Why not work for a couple of years as a paralegal? You can save some money for school, gain some experience/maturity, and make sure this is really what you want to do with your life.

Also, while people can be a bit harsh here, you shouldn't ever undertake something just to prove someone wrong. They won't care, and if you don't succeed you bear the burden completely.

icpb · Post by **icpb** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:44 pm

Lopata92 wrote:Im doing a JD/MBA duel. I have an accounting undergrad. Worst come to worst I'll be a CPA.

You attended UConn for UG? What range of law schools are you looking at? That's relevant for assessing whether being a 19/20-year-old 1L is good.

Lopata92 · Post by **Lopata92** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:17 pm

No, I attend one of the other CT state schools. Seeing as I will get my CPA certification a law degree will be a very good complement to that. I am not sure if I want to fully suplement it that is why I'm thinking Uconn. My debt will be lower than some of my friends who attended some of the more expensive UGs. My range of schools will depend entirely on my LSAT score, I'm taking them in two weeks, and if I have an off day anything goes, but I think I am capable of 160+ on most days, I have had some off days practicing on my preps and I dipped bellow the 150 mark. I think to a lot of people on here it's Law or bust, so if they don't get a job right away they'll strugle, I will have my CPA to fall back uppon. Worst come to worst, the JD will be a good supplement to my resume, seeing as my MBA will take two years anyways, I can do JD/MBA in four. I really love school, and I want as much education as possible, yet at the same time I want to be able to start my life in my 20s and not have to have the burden of school and work into my late 30s. That's what I think, I am sure 20 people will prove to me how wrong I am.

dr123 · Post by **dr123** » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:59 pm

Most MBA program require work experience bro

MrPapagiorgio · Post by **MrPapagiorgio** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:04 am

dr123 wrote:Most MBA programs worth attending require work experience bro

FTFY

No13baby · Post by **No13baby** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 12:46 am

Lopata92 wrote:Worst come to worst, the JD will be a good supplement to my resume

I'm not going to tell you not to apply or whatever, but this really isn't true. A JD is great to have on your resume if you're applying for legal jobs, but pretty much worthless for anything else. If you are certain that you want to be a practicing attorney, by all means apply to law school, but if you're not sure then DON'T. Law schools try to sell you pretty hard on the "flexibility" of a JD, but that's a total lie.

Chris4943 · Post by **Chris4943** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:47 pm

DON'T have your shit together and put law school behind you as quick as you can?

Seems like stupid advice to me. Maybe sour grapes.

I wish I had tried going to law school a decade ago when I was under 25 instead of graduating in middle age.

Its hard to go through law school when you can't drink? Try going to law school after you've put down roots and started a family.

Don't go to law school when you're young because you'll be unemployed with 200k in debt? Um, just as many old JD grads are unemployed with 200k in debt. What the hell is the difference, besides that you'll be done paying off your 15 year loan before you reach retirement age.

Samara · Post by **Samara** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:16 am

Chris4943 wrote:DON'T have your shit together and put law school behind you as quick as you can?

Seems like stupid advice to me. Maybe sour grapes.

I wish I had tried going to law school a decade ago when I was under 25 instead of graduating in middle age.

Its hard to go through law school when you can't drink? Try going to law school after you've put down roots and started a family.

Don't go to law school when you're young because you'll be unemployed with 200k in debt? Um, just as many old JD grads are unemployed with 200k in debt. What the hell is the difference, besides that you'll be done paying off your 15 year loan before you reach retirement age.

Apparently the only two ages you can apply to law school are 19 and 30.

Opie · Post by **Opie** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:06 am

Samara wrote:
Chris4943 wrote:DON'T have your shit together and put law school behind you as quick as you can?

Seems like stupid advice to me. Maybe sour grapes.

I wish I had tried going to law school a decade ago when I was under 25 instead of graduating in middle age.

Its hard to go through law school when you can't drink? Try going to law school after you've put down roots and started a family.

Don't go to law school when you're young because you'll be unemployed with 200k in debt? Um, just as many old JD grads are unemployed with 200k in debt. What the hell is the difference, besides that you'll be done paying off your 15 year loan before you reach retirement age.
Apparently the only two ages you can apply to law school are 19 and 30.

Love it! Someone did well at arguments.

Lopata92 · Post by **Lopata92** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:09 pm

No13baby wrote:
Lopata92 wrote:Worst come to worst, the JD will be a good supplement to my resume
I'm not going to tell you not to apply or whatever, but this really isn't true. A JD is great to have on your resume if you're applying for legal jobs, but pretty much worthless for anything else. If you are certain that you want to be a practicing attorney, by all means apply to law school, but if you're not sure then DON'T. Law schools try to sell you pretty hard on the "flexibility" of a JD, but that's a total lie.

So you want to tell me that being a tax professional and a taw lawyer is not a good mix if my main focus is being a CPA?

Grizz · Post by **Grizz** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 12:10 pm

Lopata92 wrote:
No13baby wrote:
Lopata92 wrote:Worst come to worst, the JD will be a good supplement to my resume
I'm not going to tell you not to apply or whatever, but this really isn't true. A JD is great to have on your resume if you're applying for legal jobs, but pretty much worthless for anything else. If you are certain that you want to be a practicing attorney, by all means apply to law school, but if you're not sure then DON'T. Law schools try to sell you pretty hard on the "flexibility" of a JD, but that's a total lie.
So you want to tell me that being a tax professional and a taw lawyer is not a good mix if my main focus is being a CPA?

It's not.

Lopata92 · Post by **Lopata92** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:02 pm

It makes more sence to come to a CPA for tax advice, then pay a lawyer to represent the case?

ahduth · Post by **ahduth** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 1:47 pm

Lopata92 wrote:It makes more sence to come to a CPA for tax advice, then pay a lawyer to represent the case?

They give different kinds of advice. Not sure why you're bothering with the law degree if you want to do public accounting. If you actually want to strengthen your credentials, go work for the Big 4 for a couple years. Whereas if you want to be a tax attorney, be happy you understand accounting and don't worry about presenting yourself as a CPA.

I feel like the JD/MBA seems like a bad idea given your position. As a recruiter I'd look at your background and see you as a candidate to leave my firm quickly for some other position, given your lack of any corporate track record, and an educational history that could make one question your level of interest in pulling 80 hour weeks doing tax legal work.

SilverE2 · Post by **SilverE2** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:34 pm

Lopata92 wrote:It makes more sence to come to a CPA for tax advice, then pay a lawyer to represent the case?

JD/MBAs are almost always a bad idea. When hiring comes around, it looks like you're undecided as to what you want to do, and trust me on this, firms are going to look down on you because of this.

If you want an MBA, you're going to need work experience anyway. I don't think you'll get into any MBA/JD programs, or any worth going to anyway.

Look, I was 19 once. All of us here giving you advice were. I know how it feels to think you know everything better than everyone else, I think that's a feeling that most people have at some point in their teenage years. But when it comes to law school, you don't know everything. Here on TLS we have people about to start in the best schools in the country, people currently attending the best schools in the country, and people working as attorneys after going to the best schools in the country. When it comes to law school, TLS knows what the fuck its talking about. You can choose to ignore our advice if you want, but I can guarantee you one thing - we know better than you do, and if you listen to the advice here, you will be in a better position than you would have been otherwise.

BlueDiamond · Post by **BlueDiamond** » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:59 pm

49.99% .. although that could get more accurate by adding decimal places

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