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What counts as a minority?

Post by Lopata92 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:41 pm

I was born in Ukraine came here at the age of 10 in 2002. Would being Ukrainian suffice as being an "under represented minority?" I am not going to go through my life story, but I have seen my share of hardships, at the same time I am caucasian and that is almost never looked at as a minority, regardless of the nation. If anyone has any knowledge on this, help me out here? Cuz being a minority would make my life sooooooooo much easier during the application process.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by dakure » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:41 pm

No.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by soj » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:43 pm

You're young to be studying for the LSAT already. Not that that's a bad thing.

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Post by MrPapagiorgio » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:43 pm

Lopata92 wrote:Cuz being a minority would make my life sooooooooo much easier during the application process.
I lol'd.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by Opie » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:54 pm

Lopata92 wrote:I was born in Ukraine came here at the age of 10 in 2002. I have seen my share of hardships.
You're not a URM, but you may be able to make something of this part.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by rinkrat19 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:58 pm

You could certainly spin that into a diversity statement, but you aren't an Underrepresented Minority for law school admission purposes. White people of eastern European origin aren't underrepresented in law school compared to the general population like African Americans, Native Americans and certain kinds of Hispanics are.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by Lopata92 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:35 pm

soj wrote:You're young to be studying for the LSAT already. Not that that's a bad thing.
My lsats are in 2 weeks. I graduate my UG in May.

To all else thank you for your replies, so best I can do is write a personal statement about how rough a life of a ukrainain can be?

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by rinkrat19 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:43 pm

Lopata92 wrote:
soj wrote:You're young to be studying for the LSAT already. Not that that's a bad thing.
My lsats are in 2 weeks. I graduate my UG in May.

To all else thank you for your replies, so best I can do is write a personal statement about how rough a life of a ukrainain can be?
You'll want to write it more along the lines of "coming from X conditions in the Ukraine has shaped me into the person I am today in Y ways and thus I would contribute Z to your student body" than just writing an essay on how crappy it was.

But yes.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by Lopata92 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:48 pm

Thank you. Does age play a factor? like I know schools have a profile like 19-55 or 20-60 since ill be 19 going in will that help? (yes I know this is borederline stupid question) but I am curious. I've read on here that employers look for more "mature" people comming out of law school, but if it helps to expand the class profile I would think it would be in my advantage right?

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Post by rinkrat19 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:53 pm

I would imagine being 19 has pros and cons. Pro, it probably adds to the general interest of your life story (this still hinges on you being able to write a good PS and DS). Con, you're still a freaking teenager and can't drink yet. A good part of law school is forming connections with your classmates, and a good part of that networking is done in bars and at events where alcohol is served. Regardless of whether you drink or not, the rest of the student body may look at you as a little kid. I'm not sure how well you'd fit in.

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Post by mths » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:55 pm

I think being 19 will be a big Con and your background will play a minimal role.

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Post by anstone1988 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:56 pm

mths wrote:I think being 19 will be a big Con and your background will play a minimal role.
Especially if you graduated from college in three years or less.

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Post by Lopata92 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:34 pm

anstone1988 wrote:
mths wrote:I think being 19 will be a big Con and your background will play a minimal role.
Especially if you graduated from college in three years or less.
Is that what you think, or that's what you've read and heard?

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by anstone1988 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:44 pm

Lopata92 wrote:
anstone1988 wrote:
mths wrote:I think being 19 will be a big Con and your background will play a minimal role.
Especially if you graduated from college in three years or less.
Is that what you think, or that's what you've read and heard?
Read on TLS. Just do a search on TLS. There have been people who graduated in three years or less due to AP and college credits received during high school. Most law schools wouldn't care, but HYS and a couple of others might. From what I've heard, this applies mainly to 19/20 year-old K-JD.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by Opie » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:14 pm

Being so young, you may want to look at another graduate degree or getting some work experience before law school. OR if you do go into law school right away, maybe look at an LL.M. so that you won't be 22 and looking for a legal job. It shouldn't matter, but I'm afraid it will. I hate it when my doctor looks like he's 12, but I don't think I'd even hire a lawyer that I thought was young and inexperienced. It's stupid, but I'm sure it happens.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by Lopata92 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:35 pm

Im doing a JD/MBA duel. I have an accounting undergrad. Worst come to worst I'll be a CPA.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by dr123 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:38 pm

Dont go to law school if you're only nineteen, go get a job and wait to apply to law school until, at the least, you've been able to purchase a beer.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by Lopata92 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:45 pm

I think I'll go against all your advice and prove u worng.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by dr123 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:46 pm

Have fun being unemployed and 200k in debt at 22.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by MrPapagiorgio » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:51 pm

rinkrat19 wrote:Con, you're still a freaking teenager and can't drink yet. A good part of law school is forming connections with your classmates, and a good part of that networking is done in bars and at events where alcohol is served. Regardless of whether you drink or not, the rest of the student body may look at you as a little kid. I'm not sure how well you'd fit in.
+1.

ETA: I had an elaboration but based on this:
Lopata92 wrote:I think I'll go against all your advice and prove u worng.
I will redact it seeing how incorrigible you seem to be.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by Lopata92 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:55 pm

dr123 wrote:Have fun being unemployed and 200k in debt at 22.
UConn 28K per year for for years with my JD/MBA being a CPA I'll get a job.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by dr123 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:03 pm

One 20 year old got a big law job? Who cares? Making huge life decisions at 19 is not a good idea.

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Re: What counts as a minority?

Post by dr123 » Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:14 pm

acrossthelake wrote:
dr123 wrote:One 20 year old got a big law job? Who cares? Making huge life decisions at 19 is not a good idea.
It matters in disproving your point that graduating at 22=unemployed and 200K in debt.
That wasn't the point I was trying to make. I said that because it is a very realistic possibility. Also going to law school as a teen who has never had a real job sounds like a horrible idea. You're making a decision that will follow you for the rest of your life. Most people change their minds many, many times as to what they want to so. It is best to at least see what's out there and explore some options.

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