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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by sundance95 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:46 pm

Q: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

A: Yes, that is why there are so few conservative lawyers, and also why the Federalist Society is so weak and disorganized.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by dr123 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:46 pm

Dems and Republicans are both jackasses

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Post by dkt4 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:47 pm

it's hard out here for a conservative.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by NZA » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:49 pm

dr123 wrote:Dems and Republicans are both jackasses
The question is: who's the bigger asshole?

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by dudders » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:50 pm

sundance95 wrote:Q: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

A: Yes, that is why there are so few conservative lawyers, and also why the Federalist Society is so weak and disorganized.
TCR. Don't worry, there are plenty of law students who will watch Fox News with you.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by RaleighStClair » Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:58 pm

dr123 wrote:Dems and Republicans are both jackasses
Dems are conservatives...they just don't know it yet.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by kilgoretrout66 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:07 pm

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere in the Yale admission blog (alas, too lazy to find the link), where Dean Asha asks self-identified conservatives to apply - ideological diversity accounts for something too, apparently... Then again, not every law school has produced Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, so who knows whether this is something unique to Yale or not.

Your political beliefs could definitely help you, so long as they're presented in a way that wouldn't alienate liberal adcoms. As a raging liberal who wants to "save the planet," conversely, I think it'll be harder for me to stand out.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by Real Madrid » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:19 pm

NZA wrote:
RaleighStClair wrote:
NZA wrote:I just wanted to post in response to what is certainly the worst question yet asked on this forum.

I mean really? Really? This is a serious question?
Can you elaborate?
Nope.
You seem like a very miserable person based on pretty much all of your posts. I'm sorry.

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Post by monarchylover » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:27 pm

Real Madrid wrote:
NZA wrote:
RaleighStClair wrote:
NZA wrote:I just wanted to post in response to what is certainly the worst question yet asked on this forum.

I mean really? Really? This is a serious question?
Can you elaborate?
Nope.
You seem like a very miserable person based on pretty much all of your posts. I'm sorry.
this is like 99% of people on TLS

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by sundance95 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:27 pm

monarchylover wrote:this is like 99% of people on TLS
But you're the 1%er, amirite?

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Post by shoeshine » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:29 pm

sundance95 wrote:
monarchylover wrote:this is like 99% of people on TLS
But you're the 1%er, amirite?
LOL

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Post by kapachino » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:30 pm

NZA wrote:
dr123 wrote:Dems and Republicans are both jackasses
The question is: who's the bigger asshole?

Judging by some of the posts in this thread...Republicans. But we already knew that. :mrgreen:

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Post by monarchylover » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:30 pm

sundance95 wrote:
monarchylover wrote:this is like 99% of people on TLS
But you're the 1%er, amirite?
god no I would rather laugh with the sinners

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by Patriot1208 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:58 pm

Blessedassurance wrote:You should apply to Regent University. It was founded by Pat Robertson, it doesn't get any better than this.

Here's the kicker: When Oral Roberts University shut down it's law school in 1986, it sent its library to what eventually became Regent University. Guess who went to Oral Roberts for Law School? Michele Bachmann.
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Post by lawgod » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:14 pm

d34dluk3 wrote:
kdw94780 wrote:I've wondered about the same thing. I think if you were a liberal applying to a conservative school, it would not make a difference. But IMO, a lot of liberals are super hostile to conservatives. I mean we're "terrorists" or "bigots" if we disagree with any of their ideas. However, if you're friend from HLS says it can help, then why not.
You sound like a racist. And I say that as a moderate.
Assuming you meant this as a joke?

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Post by duckmoney » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:40 pm

I had "president of the college republicans" on my resume, along with work for several republican campaigns, and my cycle pretty much went by the numbers. I didn't mention politics in the PS. I think they're happy to see meaningful political experience, even if conservative, on your resume, but they don't want you to ever be a partisan hack in your application. Just don't write a PS on politics and you'll be fine.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by vanwinkle » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:44 pm

This keeps coming up again and again and I keep responding in pretty much the same way.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 0#p4233745

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p3912581

http://www.top-law-schools.com/archives ... 8&start=50

Every time it comes up I ask where the evidence is. The paranoid 0Ls who ask about bias like this never come back after their cycle and argue they were the victim of bias. I've known quite a few law students with blatantly conservative resumes and they never complained about bias in admissions. So far I only ever recall one person claim they got shut out of the T14 because of their political beliefs... and then it was discovered he had a 159 LSAT.

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Post by ZiggyPink » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:08 pm

Think about basic strategy here. Your goal shouldn't be to pour your heart out in an attempt to express your views, but rather to get into the best law school that you can. The personal statement counts for so little, why jeopardize your chances by eliciting negative emotions from the reader if he disagrees with you? Obv, it can go the other way and he can think you are a total baller, but why take that risk? If someone important takes a subjective disliking in you, it will kill your chances. Whether it is politics or religion or anything else people kill each other over. Write about how you want to give back to your community, help your fellow man, how much slavery sucked, how much you missed your dog when it died. Just my humble opinion.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by kapachino » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:10 pm

vanwinkle wrote:This keeps coming up again and again and I keep responding in pretty much the same way.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 0#p4233745

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 5#p3912581

http://www.top-law-schools.com/archives ... 8&start=50

Every time it comes up I ask where the evidence is. The paranoid 0Ls who ask about bias like this never come back after their cycle and argue they were the victim of bias. I've known quite a few law students with blatantly conservative resumes and they never complained about bias in admissions. So far I only ever recall one person claim they got shut out of the T14 because of their political beliefs... and then it was discovered he had a 159 LSAT.

I would posit that there are those applicants who are just going to adhere to faux victim hood regardless of the evidence. The fact that they tend to be lackluster applicants is just the icing on the cake.

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Post by Verity » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:11 pm

Bill O'Reilly went to Harvard. Rod Blagojevich went to Pepperdine Law.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by lawgod » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:12 pm

How about Hilldale College that Rush talks about? Do they have a law school? Maybe you can go there?

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Post by kapachino » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:15 pm

Verity wrote:Bill O'Reilly went to Harvard. Rod Blagojevich went to Pepperdine Law.

Two points: 1) O'Reilly was already notable when he attended Harvard and 2) he got an MPA, not a JD. I'm sure the fact that he was a well-known journalist when he helped him out quite a bit.

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Post by Verity » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:23 pm

kapachino wrote:
Verity wrote:Bill O'Reilly went to Harvard. Rod Blagojevich went to Pepperdine Law.

Two points: 1) O'Reilly was already notable when he attended Harvard and 2) he got an MPA, not a JD. I'm sure the fact that he was a well-known journalist when he helped him out quite a bit.
Anyone who thinks such alleged biases really preclude people from going to certain law schools (especially at large, major universities) should stop complaining and retake.

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Re: Is there an anti-conservative/GOP bias in LS admissions?

Post by afitouri » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:33 pm

Conservative media brainwashes conservative idiots into thinking that all liberals have it out for them and disagree with them.

The reality is that educated people don't get their news from cable news networks and educated people have much more thoroughly informed opinions than the garbage they spit out on FOX news and MSNBC.

Nobody cares what your political standpoints are man. They only care if you're an idiot. And if you eat up the mass media garbage, whether you're conservative or liberal, they'll spot you as an idiot and *maybe* that will affect your acceptance. But even then, doubtfully.

Just get a high GPA and LSAT.

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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