OFFICIAL 2011 DIFFICULTIES OF MAJORS (Brought to you by KFC) Forum

[Tom Joad]

OFFICIAL 2011 DIFFICULTIES OF MAJORS (Brought to you by KFC)
1. Engineering (and all of its related fields)
2. Math
3. Biological Sciences
4. Physical Sciences
5. Philosophy
6. English
7. Social Studies (Political Science, Sociology, Anthropology)
8. Foreign Language
9. Accounting
10. Finance
11. Management
12. Marketing
13. Psychology

...

9001. Arts
9002. Education
9003. Criminal Justice

[bjsesq]

OFFICIAL 2011 DIFFICULTIES OF MAJORS (Brought to you by KFC)
1. Engineering (and all of its related fields)
2. Math
3. Biological Sciences
4. Physical Sciences
5. Philosophy
6. English
7. Social Studies (Political Science, Sociology, Anthropology)
8. Foreign Language
9. Accounting
10. Finance
11. Management
12. Marketing
13. Psychology

...

9001. Arts
9002. Education
9003. Criminal Justice

Not sure of the point here, but the criminal justice thing is credited.

[Revolver066]

Wait, philosophy over accounting?? Nah brah...nah.

[Tom Joad]

Just trying to see if we can reach some consensus as to what law schools view as easy/hard majors.

[gunner3]

I'm with revolv... no way that philosophy and poly sci are above accounting/finance. They may not even be above Criminal Justice... Just sayin bruh

[bjsesq]

I'm with revolv... no way that philosophy and poly sci are above accounting/finance. They may not even be above Criminal Justice... Just sayin bruh

Let's not go fucking crazy. Yes they are.

[gunner3]

Let's not take it personal bj... clearly there was a little sarcasm involved.

[Tom Joad]

To be honest, I just thought of the business majors afterward and didn't want to revise the top portion. Accounting seems hard almost no matter what, but social sciences and finance probably depend on what kind of programs you come from.

[Yeshia90]

As someone who majors in both, PolySci has been significantly more difficult than Soc.

[bjsesq]

Let's not take it personal bj... clearly there was a little sarcasm involved.

When you refuse to put my major at the bottom of the pile where it belongs, I take it very personally.

[Tom Joad]

As someone who majors in both, PolySci has been significantly more difficult than Soc.

PSCI gets knocked on pretty hard, but at my school it is one of the toughest majors by far. I could definitely see other programs where it is on the easier side though.

[Blessedassurance]

Why is English sixth?

Most capable writers find the study of English a truly useless enterprise.

Arguments over grammar are synonymous with Coke versus Pepsi.

Why native speakers of a language consider the study of their mother tongue difficult is one miracle televangelists have failed to recognize.

Re: Philosophy. Surely, you do recognize the inherent irony of Socrates' illiteracy.

[spek]

Why is English sixth?

Most capable writers find the study of English a truly useless enterprise.

Arguments over grammar are synonymous with Coke versus Pepsi.

Why native speakers of a language consider the study of their mother tongue difficult is one miracle televangelists have failed to recognize.

Re: Philosophy. Surely, you do recognize the inherent irony of Socrates' illiteracy.

Um...an English major doesn't study grammar.

[JDndMSW]

9004. Social Work

[Tom Joad]

Re: Philosophy. Surely, you do recognize the inherent irony of Socrates' illiteracy.

>implying anybody studies Socrates in original manuscript Greek (or whatever they spoke and wrote back then).

[Real Madrid]

OFFICIAL 2011 DIFFICULTIES OF MAJORS (Brought to you by KFC)
1. Engineering (and all of its related fields)
2. Math
3. Biological Sciences
4. Physical Sciences
5. Philosophy
6. English
7. Social Studies (Political Science, Sociology, Anthropology)
8. Foreign Language
9. Accounting
10. Finance
11. Management
12. Marketing
13. Psychology

...

9001. Arts
9002. Education
9003. Criminal Justice

As someone who graduated with a double major in Finance and a foreign language, I can unequivocally say that Finance is a much, much harder major than a foreign language.

[Blessedassurance]

Why is English sixth?

Most capable writers find the study of English a truly useless enterprise.

Arguments over grammar are synonymous with Coke versus Pepsi.

Why native speakers of a language consider the study of their mother tongue difficult is one miracle televangelists have failed to recognize.

Re: Philosophy. Surely, you do recognize the inherent irony of Socrates' illiteracy.

Um...an English major doesn't study grammar.

They do study grammar among other things. I used grammar because of its relative utility among the other useless things they study. You can indeed break all the rules of grammar, lexis, syntax etc and end up with a best-seller (See Dostoevsky's Notes from Underground). Name some useful things the study of English as a major entails.

[KevinP]

How law school admissions see it:
1. Engineering (and all of its related fields)
2. Math
3. Biological Sciences
4. Physical Sciences
5. Philosophy
6. English
7. Social Studies (Political Science, Sociology, Anthropology)
8. Foreign Language
9. Accounting
10. Finance
11. Management
12. Marketing
13. Psychology

...

9001. Arts
9002. Education
9003. Criminal Justice
1. GPA

[tyro]

Had quite a few courses in PolySci, Philosophy, English, and Sociology. At least from my experience, the PolySci courses were the toughest. Then again, I ran into two older ex-attorney professors who seemed to just hate students and modern technology. It seemed like the Engl and Phil courses I had were pretty tough to get straight A's in but somewhat easy to stay in the B+/A- range. Sociology was the easiest for me but these courses were heavily based on research writing which seemed to be one of my stengths.

[Blessedassurance]

Can Economics get some love?

[IamJosh]

Why is English sixth?

Most capable writers find the study of English a truly useless enterprise.

Arguments over grammar are synonymous with Coke versus Pepsi.

Why native speakers of a language consider the study of their mother tongue difficult is one miracle televangelists have failed to recognize.

Re: Philosophy. Surely, you do recognize the inherent irony of Socrates' illiteracy.

Um...an English major doesn't study grammar.

They do study grammar among other things. I used grammar because of its relative utility among the other useless things they study. You can indeed break all the rules of grammar, lexis, syntax etc and end up with a best-seller (See Dostoevsky's Notes from Underground). Name some useful things the study of English as a major entails.

Uhh, I won't suggest that English is a hard major, but what kind of school has an English major like this? And for most English majors, writing a book isn't even relevant to their studies. English majors can opt for creative writing, but literary analysis doesn't cover writing outside of critical work. They expect you to have good grammar already. The major teaches critical thinking, argumentative skills, and writing precisely.

[dkt4]

those who went to college at their local elementary study grammar.

[tyro]

Name some useful things the study of English as a major entails.

I minored in English and found it to be somewhat/pretty useful. A number of my professors were truly obsessed with textual connotations and general argumentative structure in essays and historical pieces to the point where creativity and advanced techniques seemed to become prerequisites/basic expectations in the work of students. These were the most enthusiastic professors out of all which made class really interesting, but it seemed that reason and logic were too often put behind creativity, structure, and overall spunk when it came to persuasive essays which was my biggest issue with the program.

The most useful things I got out of it were new writing techniques/skills and better comprehension when it comes to dense historical texts.

[Blessedassurance]

Uhh, I won't suggest that English is a hard major, but what kind of school has an English major like this? And for most English majors, writing a book isn't even relevant to their studies. English majors can opt for creative writing, but literary analysis doesn't cover writing outside of critical work. They expect you to have good grammar already. The major teaches critical thinking, argumentative skills, and writing precisely.

Argumentative skills? What does that entail? Arguing that one's subjective interpretation of Cthulhu should be taken as gospel and the fact that a ghost in the story by a drunken vagabond deriving his muse from a bottle of bourbon is not really a ghost?

Many writers actually disagree with the scholarly interpretations of their work. Of course most English majors don't consider writing a book relevant to their interests precisely because they can't write a book. The study of English as a major is, in my opinion, detrimental to writing a book. Those who can, do, don't need a degree and harbor a disdain for the pseudo-intellectuals who pride themselves on their 'astute' critique of what is essentially, art (see H.L. Mencken etc).

It's like the bespectacled oaf with a beard and receding hairline in his mom's basement who tries to convince the world to hate Nickelback and calls anyone who doesn't share his taste in music, unsophisticated.

If you gave Tolstoy's manuscript to 10,000 English majors, you'll get 10,000 critiques in different directions. Some like simple prose, others like complicated prose. Some think James Joyce is unnecessarily verbose, others like him and some like him because other people like him etc. Every time I think of English majors, I imagine the ne'er-do-well's behind the counter of obscure coffee-shops and starbucks who read "The Brothers Karamazov" on the bus home in a pretentiously silly attempt to project avant-gardism.

They also rent lofts they can't afford in downtown Seattle. In my youth, I had a female roommate who ran a coffee-shop and moonlighted by reading palms. She was an English major.

Ha, don't get me wrong, I love English. It's simply useless. You improve simply by reading. You should talk to long-term inmates at the state penitentiary. You'd be pleasantly surprised by their diction. Mostly, because they read books to pass the time.

[Blessedassurance]

those who went to college at their local elementary study grammar.

Didn't they teach you to capitalize shit at the august institution at which you paid good money to learn what is supposed to be a spontaneous, natural ability on account of it being your mother tongue?