Do they consider difficulty of your major ? Forum
-
riley22

- Posts: 2
- Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:07 pm
Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
Will a 3.4 gpa with a tough double major be as good as a higher gpa with a less difficult major?
- Deuce

- Posts: 1047
- Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:12 am
- mrtoren

- Posts: 733
- Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:43 pm
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
There's no way to accurately measure how much harder one major is than another. Therefore, there's no way to give certain applicants a boost. They expect you to choose a major, or majors, that you can handle and succeed in.
-
Peeblepop

- Posts: 49
- Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:52 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
I'm going to disagree. I got into a T25 with a 3.0 in Physics and a LSAT right at median. I don't think it's a boost per se, but I think with a few schools who are honestly holistic, if they really like you based on you personal statement and your letters of rec, it can give them a reason to look the other way.
- rinkrat19

- Posts: 13922
- Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:35 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
A double major in nuclear physics and biochemistry will look better than a single major in criminal justice if the applicants have similar GPAs, but it won't actually make up for a bad GPA. Law school ranking calculations include the GPA of the entering class, with no caveats for difficulty of major.
Want to continue reading?
Register now to search topics and post comments!
Absolutely FREE!
Already a member? Login
-
Peeblepop

- Posts: 49
- Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:52 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
While the the difficulty of the degree doesn't come into play in the calculations, once you're below their median or 25th %ile, how far below you are doesn't come into play for the sake of the USNEWS calculations. Now, of course they still take people with GPAs closer to their median, because a higher GPA is more indicative of you being smarter and they don't want people who are going to be walking into walls, however if you're further below but have degrees in nuclear engineering and... something else really hard, that's pretty indicative of you being a smart person also. So you can get away with more.rinkrat19 wrote:A double major in nuclear physics and biochemistry will look better than a single major in criminal justice if the applicants have similar GPAs, but it won't actually make up for a bad GPA. Law school ranking calculations include the GPA of the entering class, with no caveats for difficulty of major.
The take away: You probably won't beat someone who's at or above their median, but if it's between you and someone else with a higher GPA who are BOTH below the median, you'll have a better shot with a harder degree.
That's how I'd look at it if I were an adcomm and it's how at least one adcomm looked at it when I applied.
Also...
mrtoren wrote:There's no way to accurately measure how much harder one major is than another. Therefore, there's no way to give certain applicants a boost.While some degrees are obviously more difficult than others, they expect you to choose a major, or majors, that you can handle and succeed in.
-
riley22

- Posts: 2
- Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:07 pm
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
Thanks for the replies guys. I'm asking this question because I'm anticipating graduating with about a 3.4 gpa with a pretty tough double major. I want to get into some of the t14 schools but my gpa will be well below the 25th percentile.
- yngblkgifted

- Posts: 1050
- Joined: Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:57 pm
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
riley22 wrote:Thanks for the replies guys. I'm asking this question because I'm anticipating graduating with about a 3.4 gpa with a pretty tough double major. I want to get into some of the t14 schools but my gpa will be well below the 25th percentile.
Prove to them that you are smarter than the poli sci kids with 3.9s and rock the LSAT(170+)! That's your best bet at this point.
-
shoeshine

- Posts: 1230
- Joined: Wed May 04, 2011 10:58 pm
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
Deuce wrote:Nope
- WhoIsDonDraper

- Posts: 52
- Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:19 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
Hey I studied kinda hard for my Poli Sci 3.9. I always took the tests and sometimes I even read before class.yngblkgifted wrote:riley22 wrote:Thanks for the replies guys. I'm asking this question because I'm anticipating graduating with about a 3.4 gpa with a pretty tough double major. I want to get into some of the t14 schools but my gpa will be well below the 25th percentile.
Prove to them that you are smarter than the poli sci kids with 3.9s and rock the LSAT(170+)! That's your best bet at this point.
- PDaddy

- Posts: 2063
- Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:40 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
Yes, as long as the major is truly "tough" - like Psychology, a hard science or mathematics - and you apply early.riley22 wrote:Will a 3.4 gpa with a tough double major be as good as a higher gpa with a less difficult major?
All else being equal, I'd take a double-major (3.4 in Psychology/History) over a 3.8 in Sociology.
Last edited by PDaddy on Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
- Yeshia90

- Posts: 986
- Joined: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:23 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
lolwutPDaddy wrote:Yes, as long as the major is truly "tough" - like Psychology, a hard science or mathematics - and you apply early.riley22 wrote:Will a 3.4 gpa with a tough double major be as good as a higher gpa with a less difficult major?
-
shoeshine

- Posts: 1230
- Joined: Wed May 04, 2011 10:58 pm
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
No. No. No.PDaddy wrote:Yes, as long as the major is truly "tough" - like Psychology, a hard science or mathematics - and you apply early.riley22 wrote:Will a 3.4 gpa with a tough double major be as good as a higher gpa with a less difficult major?
Register now!
Resources to assist law school applicants, students & graduates.
It's still FREE!
Already a member? Login
- dr123

- Posts: 3497
- Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:38 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
Psychology ... tough? really?
- PDaddy

- Posts: 2063
- Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:40 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
Yeah? Adcoms agree with me. A lower GPA in a hard science is equal to or even better than a higher GPA in a relatively easier major. And if its a hard double-major, that rule should hold even more true. Any adcom that simply looks at your major and assumes more or less of you is stupid.
I know people from easy majors that took tough courses outside of their major, so their course load was tougher than average. That's why major shouldn't matter. However, sciences are tough by nature.
And I don't knoiw what schools you guys went to, but Psychology is a very tough major at the top universities, one of which I graduated from. The average grade in the 100 level psychology courses is about 2.7.
I know people from easy majors that took tough courses outside of their major, so their course load was tougher than average. That's why major shouldn't matter. However, sciences are tough by nature.
And I don't knoiw what schools you guys went to, but Psychology is a very tough major at the top universities, one of which I graduated from. The average grade in the 100 level psychology courses is about 2.7.
Last edited by PDaddy on Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
- bjsesq

- Posts: 13320
- Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:02 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
Oh, you BITCHrinkrat19 wrote:A double major in nuclear physics and biochemistry will look better than a single major in criminal justice if the applicants have similar GPAs, but it won't actually make up for a bad GPA. Law school ranking calculations include the GPA of the entering class, with no caveats for difficulty of major.
- WhoIsDonDraper

- Posts: 52
- Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:19 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
Let's do an over-under on PDaddy's GPA. I'll set it at 3.7 to begin with but that might be a little easy. I would take the under, I might even take the under on a 3.6.
Get unlimited access to all forums and topics
Register now!
I'm pretty sure I told you it's FREE...
Already a member? Login
- dr123

- Posts: 3497
- Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:38 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
... but seriously, since when is Psych not a joke major?
- rinkrat19

- Posts: 13922
- Joined: Sat Sep 25, 2010 5:35 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
bjsesq wrote:Oh, you BITCHrinkrat19 wrote:A double major in nuclear physics and biochemistry will look better than a single major in criminal justice if the applicants have similar GPAs, but it won't actually make up for a bad GPA. Law school ranking calculations include the GPA of the entering class, with no caveats for difficulty of major.
- PDaddy

- Posts: 2063
- Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:40 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
LOL. You got jokes!WhoIsDonDraper wrote:Let's do an over-under on PDaddy's GPA. I'll set it at 3.7 to begin with but that might be a little easy. I would take the under, I might even take the under on a 3.6.
- bjsesq

- Posts: 13320
- Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:02 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
It still is.dr123 wrote:... but seriously, since when is Psych not a joke major?
Communicate now with those who not only know what a legal education is, but can offer you worthy advice and commentary as you complete the three most educational, yet challenging years of your law related post graduate life.
Register now, it's still FREE!
Already a member? Login
- PDaddy

- Posts: 2063
- Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:40 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
You guys are wrong about the bolded part. If you have a tough major, adcoms are much more forgiving. And you agree that the tougher major with the lower GPA should win out if all else is held equal.rinkrat19 wrote:bjsesq wrote:Oh, you BITCHrinkrat19 wrote:A double major in nuclear physics and biochemistry will look better than a single major in criminal justice if the applicants have similar GPAs, but it won't actually make up for a bad GPA. Law school ranking calculations include the GPA of the entering class, with no caveats for difficulty of major.
Ok. There are tougher majors for law school than psychology, but I also mentioned the hard sciences and mathematics, whioch are indisputably tough. So my point still stands. If OP has a naturally tough major, it helps.
Last edited by PDaddy on Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
- bjsesq

- Posts: 13320
- Joined: Fri Nov 19, 2010 3:02 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
It may make up for a little, but not an appreciable amount. If you have enough evidence that says otherwise, please, enlighten us. Also, stop arguing that ug psychology isn't a joke, dude. It is.PDaddy wrote:You guys are wrong about the bolded part. If you have a tough major, adcoms are much more forgiving. And you agree that the tougher major with the lower GPA should win out if all else is held equal.rinkrat19 wrote:bjsesq wrote:Oh, you BITCHrinkrat19 wrote:A double major in nuclear physics and biochemistry will look better than a single major in criminal justice if the applicants have similar GPAs, but it won't actually make up for a bad GPA. Law school ranking calculations include the GPA of the entering class, with no caveats for difficulty of major.
- Rock-N-Roll

- Posts: 314
- Joined: Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:16 pm
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
No. This is a silly statement. It is abundantly clear to anyone who attended college that some majors (i.e any of the hard-sciences, engineering, and computer science). are more difficult than others (i.e. accounting, communication, marketing).mrtoren wrote:There's no way to accurately measure how much harder one major is than another.
The common wisdom is that law schools don't differentiate because the USNWR rankings do not differentiate.
- WhoIsDonDraper

- Posts: 52
- Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:19 am
Re: Do they consider difficulty of your major ?
I was close lol. But psych? Was not doing your psych reading a lot harder than the rest of us not doing our poli sci, history, english, philosophy reading?PDaddy wrote:LOL. You got jokes!WhoIsDonDraper wrote:Let's do an over-under on PDaddy's GPA. I'll set it at 3.7 to begin with but that might be a little easy. I would take the under, I might even take the under on a 3.6.3.72 pal!
Seriously? What are you waiting for?
Now there's a charge.
Just kidding ... it's still FREE!
Already a member? Login