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[johndoe]

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[neskerdoo]

some do say that they want all of your work history. If one or more of those says they also want your reason for leaving, I guess you'd have to fess up...

[sirhitch]

if you were fired from your job, do not disclose this on any part of your application. EVER.

[neskerdoo]

no chance it could come back to haunt you... yeah.. forget what I said...

[sockpuppet]

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[sirhitch]

Then don't bring up the fact that you worked there.

[neskerdoo]

to the bar?

[Voyager]

in CA they require a reference from every job you have held since you were 18, as part of your work history

Not exactly. It depends on the nature of the job and how long ago you held it. For instance, if you worked at a large corporation more than, say, 4 years ago, and that company, as a policy, does not state why people left (uses the work number hotline for employment verification, for instance), the bar is probably not going to bother. Spent some time talking with them about how they work.

This assumes you have a group of more recent employers they can speak to about you.

Also: lying to the bar is not a good idea....

[sirhitch]

Don't tell anybody you worked at the job you were fired at. What is difficult to understand about that?

[Voyager]

Don't tell anybody you worked at the job you were fired at. What is difficult to understand about that?

I guess that will work for a part time gig.

But if you go termed from a full time job and have more than, say, 6 months of time at that job, the date gap is going to look a tad strange...

[cantaboot]

wait -- must I put down every single job since graduation? what about those short term ones that do not last longer than 3 months?

If I don't, how will they find out ?

[sockpuppet]

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[Rosstafarian]

The applications I've seen so far only ask about whether you've been involuntarily separated from a job due to allegations of dishonesty. So, just getting fired for being lazy, incompetent, or not getting along with the management would not seem to fall under that category.

[sirhitch]

just say you quit or don't say you worked there at all. if they are concerned about a gap, tell them you waited tables at some chain restaurant. they lie to us when they say race won't factor into their decision. Fight fire with fire i say.

[awesomepossum]

I have to say lying on your application seems like more risk than it's worth.

Granted with these jobs it's possible nobody could find out. However, when you're looking to pass the bar, it seems as if their backgrounds checks are quite thorough. Do you want to go to law school only to not be admitted to the bar because you lied or left out information on your application?

Again, the odds of being discovered may not be that high. But the penalty would be huge.

[sirhitch]

Very true. Say you worked for a family business and received an allowance then.

[awesomepossum]

This is something from
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Finally, you need to know that if you are caught lying on a law school application, you will not be admitted. If you are caught later on during law school, you are likely to be expelled. If you are caught after law school, you can have your degree—and hence your career—taken away. "Lying," by the way, includes the failure to disclose requested information. Given that, you should err on the side of full disclosure.

Other sources such as Montauks book say pretty much the same thing.

[sockpuppet]

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[LawSchoolWannaBe]

Does this lying include omitting certain schools for lack of room when asked to list other schools you're applying to?

[sirhitch]

You should lie about your numbers too. say lsac must have gotten it wrong

[johndoe]

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