Admission Consultants? Forum

whattheheck · Post by **whattheheck** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:54 pm

Has anyone ever used or is planning to use an admission consultant in their application process? If so can you recommend someone? I am seriously considering saving up cash to hire one when I am to apply. Any info, good or bad would be greatly appreciated.

bk1 · Post by **bk1** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:55 pm

Most people on here just use TLS as a guide and have no need for any help outside of that.

dakatz · Post by **dakatz** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:55 pm

This site and those like it completely negate any need to waste $$ on admissions consultants. We essentially compile all the best info you could possibly get from such consultants and put it all into one compact place.

Admissions consultants are for those who waste $$ by flailing around for help, not realizing that the best resources are right there in front of them and completely free.

whattheheck · Post by **whattheheck** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:04 pm

That's great to hear. I was just thinking about getting assistance for my personal statement. Thanks.

zonto · Post by **zonto** » Thu Mar 17, 2011 5:09 pm

TLS is all you should need. There is the personal statement forum where many people will give you input on your statement when you are ready.

If you want to read advice from an "admissions consultant" just go to your local Border's or Barnes & Noble and read the relevant sections in Anne Ivey's book.

Craplicant150 · Post by **Craplicant150** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:04 am

TLS is not a resource.....

Any idiot could pretend to be a law student on the internet.

glewz · Post by **glewz** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:20 am

Craplicant150 wrote:TLS is not a resource.....

Any idiot could pretend to be a law student on the internet.

Since so many people have been saying negative things about your posts, I've begun to pay special attention to them, including this one...which makes little sense.

TheTopBloke · Post by **TheTopBloke** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:39 am

Don't waste your time. They know about as much as most TLS'ers and that's usually nothing. And seriously, you need a consultant? Don't be ridiculous.

TheTopBloke · Post by **TheTopBloke** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:40 am

glewz wrote:
Craplicant150 wrote:TLS is not a resource.....

Any idiot could pretend to be a law student on the internet.

Since so many people have been saying negative things about your posts, I've begun to pay special attention to them, including this one...which makes little sense.

How does that not make sense? You may not agree, but it seems like a coherent statement to me.

Mickey Quicknumbers · Post by **Mickey Quicknumbers** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:41 am

TheTopBloke wrote:Don't waste your time. They know about as much as most TLS'ers and that's usually nothing. And seriously, you need a consultant? Don't be ridiculous.

ಠ_ಠ

TheTopBloke · Post by **TheTopBloke** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:42 am

Mickey Quicknumbers wrote:
TheTopBloke wrote:Don't waste your time. They know about as much as most TLS'ers and that's usually nothing. And seriously, you need a consultant? Don't be ridiculous.
ಠ_ಠ

Now that doesn't make sense.

MrPapagiorgio · Post by **MrPapagiorgio** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 12:46 am

Craplicant150 wrote:TLS is not a resource.....

Any idiot could pretend to be a law student on the internet.

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run26.2 · Post by **run26.2** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:04 am

As others have said here, the money spent on a consultant is not worth it. You should find someone who you can trust that is willing to edit and honestly critique your personal statement. In other words, not someone that will just tell you that it is good/great but has experience critically evaluating this type of material. An interested and (pseudo-)related party, i.e. your girlfriend, mother, father, etc, is not the best source. A friend who has written essays for one or more good graduates program or someone with extensive writing and editing experience would be a good person to ask.

Also, TLSers usually will not either have the requisite experience or will not be willing to invest the time to provide the level of feedback that you need. Basically, you need to strike a balance between someone that is willing but without the skill to really be familiar with what admissions officers are looking for and someone who will put in a lot of time but will not be sufficiently critical. You want a person that cares about you, but not so much that they can't tell you when your writing or an idea stinks.

You might not actually know this type of person, and in such a case, you are just going to have to learn for yourself what works and what doesn't. Princeton Review sells a book that contains essays written by individuals that were accepted to top law schools. You can read their essays to get a baseline for the amount of individuality, disclosure, risk, flair, etc. to take in writing your essay. I would read several of those. Also, I would write several personal statements to try out various themes. See which you like best or which fits with a particular school. You may also have some standardized material that you can tailor for each school. In short, no one else is going to be able to substitute for your own expertise in communicating your own unique attributes to admissions committees. If you can master how to do this, you probably will get into a few reach schools.

My advice would be to develop a sense for what really works in relation to the rest of your own application. Then have someone you trust but that will shoot you straight read it over. Consider that person's suggestions and rework as necessary. Do this perhaps one more time (or more as the other person is willing). The more expertise you develop, the less you will have to rely on someone else.

Good luck with the process.

run26.2 · Post by **run26.2** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 1:11 am

I said all the above because I tried to use an admissions consultant from a well-known company. I knew more than the admissions consultant. It was throwing money away.

glewz · Post by **glewz** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:19 am

TheTopBloke wrote:
glewz wrote:
Craplicant150 wrote:TLS is not a resource.....

Any idiot could pretend to be a law student on the internet.

Since so many people have been saying negative things about your posts, I've begun to pay special attention to them, including this one...which makes little sense.
How does that not make sense? You may not agree, but it seems like a coherent statement to me.

This has Nothing to do with whether I agree or not.

"TLS is not a resource" - define resource, and then see whether TLS suffices. (it does)

"Any idiot could pretend to be a law student on the internet" - this is true, obviously, but does this really happen in an overwhelming way so as to cripplingly attenuate the holistic utility of this forum? (no. it does not.)

Curry · Post by **Curry** » Sat Mar 19, 2011 3:22 am

Its hilarious that a thread, on tls, about the sites usefulness is resulting in people with hundreds of posts here saying it sucks.

Go to the personal statement forum. If you need more help than whats offered there, you're personal statement is not worth sending in.

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