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Are Duke and Northwestern on par with MVP...
for career prospects? Or are MVP generally regarded as >>> Duke + NU
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For New York: Penn/Duke > UVA/Northwestern >> MichiganBoomBoom1986 wrote:for career prospects? Or are MVP generally regarded as >>> Duke + NU
For D.C.: Duke/UVA > Penn/Northwestern >> Michigan
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Blatant anti-Michigan trollingquakeroats wrote:For New York: Penn/Duke > UVA/Northwestern >> MichiganBoomBoom1986 wrote:for career prospects? Or are MVP generally regarded as >>> Duke + NU
For D.C.: Duke/UVA > Penn/Northwestern >> Michigan
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Are you retarded?quakeroats wrote:For New York: Penn/Duke > UVA/Northwestern >> MichiganBoomBoom1986 wrote:for career prospects? Or are MVP generally regarded as >>> Duke + NU
For D.C.: Duke/UVA > Penn/Northwestern >> Michigan
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Which part are you disagreeing with?Cavalier wrote:Are you retarded?quakeroats wrote:For New York: Penn/Duke > UVA/Northwestern >> MichiganBoomBoom1986 wrote:for career prospects? Or are MVP generally regarded as >>> Duke + NU
For D.C.: Duke/UVA > Penn/Northwestern >> Michigan
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Duke is not equal to UVA for DC. Duke is not better than UVA for NY. And most obviously, Duke is better than Michigan at nothing except basketball.quakeroats wrote:Which part are you disagreeing with?Cavalier wrote:Are you retarded?quakeroats wrote:For New York: Penn/Duke > UVA/Northwestern >> MichiganBoomBoom1986 wrote:for career prospects? Or are MVP generally regarded as >>> Duke + NU
For D.C.: Duke/UVA > Penn/Northwestern >> Michigan
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I know UPENN is the best for NY.
I have heard DUKE struggles in NY.
I know DUKE and UVA do well in DC.
For Chicago, I'd imagine it's MICHIGAN but IDK.
In general, I think you can throw Northwestern into the MVP mix (I think a big part of the MVP breakdown is it sounds a lot better than MVPN). I think DUKE is a bit outside of the rest of them.
I have heard DUKE struggles in NY.
I know DUKE and UVA do well in DC.
For Chicago, I'd imagine it's MICHIGAN but IDK.
In general, I think you can throw Northwestern into the MVP mix (I think a big part of the MVP breakdown is it sounds a lot better than MVPN). I think DUKE is a bit outside of the rest of them.
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So are Boalt and Cornell.
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Man. I was hoping to get in before quakeroats, but I should've known he'd be the first responder.
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Duke is actually better for D.C. than UVA, but I'm sorting by tier as it isn't that much better. Ditto N.Y. placement except there the difference is much greater, hence the change in position. This was thoroughly hashed out here: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 8&start=50Cavalier wrote:Duke is not equal to UVA for DC. Duke is not better than UVA for NY. And most obviously, Duke is better than Michigan at nothing except basketball.quakeroats wrote:Which part are you disagreeing with?quakeroats wrote:For New York: Penn/Duke > UVA/Northwestern >> MichiganBoomBoom1986 wrote:for career prospects? Or are MVP generally regarded as >>> Duke + NU
For D.C.: Duke/UVA > Penn/Northwestern >> Michigan
Are you retarded?
As for Michigan, it's been on it's way out for 30 years. Right now it places about as well as Cornell. In another 30 years it will be Boston College without a major market.
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Is any school really "good" for DC biglaw?
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Excellent point. My posts are about relative placement. It's all just a different shade of brown at the moment.IAFG wrote:Is any school really "good" for DC biglaw?
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But I thought Duke did really well in NYC????justadude55 wrote:I know UPENN is the best for NY.
I have heard DUKE struggles in NY.
I know DUKE and UVA do well in DC.
For Chicago, I'd imagine it's MICHIGAN but IDK.
In general, I think you can throw Northwestern into the MVP mix (I think a big part of the MVP breakdown is it sounds a lot better than MVPN). I think DUKE is a bit outside of the rest of them.
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That link is you just talking BS -- I remember when it was active.quakeroats wrote: Duke is actually better for D.C. than UVA, but I'm sorting by tier as it isn't that much better. Ditto N.Y. placement except there the difference is much greater, hence the change in position. This was thoroughly hashed out here: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 8&start=50
As for Michigan, it's been on it's way out for 30 years. Right now it places about as well as Cornell. In another 30 years it will be Boston College without a major market.
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It's 19 degrees and snowing in Ann Arbor.AreJay711 wrote:That link is you just talking BS -- I remember when it was active.quakeroats wrote: Duke is actually better for D.C. than UVA, but I'm sorting by tier as it isn't that much better. Ditto N.Y. placement except there the difference is much greater, hence the change in position. This was thoroughly hashed out here: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 8&start=50
As for Michigan, it's been on it's way out for 30 years. Right now it places about as well as Cornell. In another 30 years it will be Boston College without a major market.
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And it's raining Bridge to Practice grants in Durham.quakeroats wrote:It's 19 degrees and snowing in Ann Arbor.AreJay711 wrote:That link is you just talking BS -- I remember when it was active.quakeroats wrote: Duke is actually better for D.C. than UVA, but I'm sorting by tier as it isn't that much better. Ditto N.Y. placement except there the difference is much greater, hence the change in position. This was thoroughly hashed out here: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 8&start=50
As for Michigan, it's been on it's way out for 30 years. Right now it places about as well as Cornell. In another 30 years it will be Boston College without a major market.
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Anymore thoughts? I'm really interested in this, especially how Duke stacks up against MVP (still haven't heard from NU)...
So, how does Duke fair in NYC compared to MVP? I've seen two opinions in this thread. Who wants to be the tie-breaker?
So, how does Duke fair in NYC compared to MVP? I've seen two opinions in this thread. Who wants to be the tie-breaker?
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What are these?clintonius wrote:And it's raining Bridge to Practice grants in Durham.quakeroats wrote:It's 19 degrees and snowing in Ann Arbor.AreJay711 wrote:That link is you just talking BS -- I remember when it was active.quakeroats wrote: Duke is actually better for D.C. than UVA, but I'm sorting by tier as it isn't that much better. Ditto N.Y. placement except there the difference is much greater, hence the change in position. This was thoroughly hashed out here: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 8&start=50
As for Michigan, it's been on it's way out for 30 years. Right now it places about as well as Cornell. In another 30 years it will be Boston College without a major market.
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It's where Duke pays employers to take on the students at the very bottom of the class. While this is styled as a criticism, I think it's more properly a bonus. If you utterly fail in law school Duke will pay someone to employ you; good luck to the similarly situated at UVA and Michigan.BoomBoom1986 wrote:What are these?clintonius wrote:It's 19 degrees and snowing in Ann Arbor.quakeroats wrote:That link is you just talking BS -- I remember when it was active.quakeroats wrote: Duke is actually better for D.C. than UVA, but I'm sorting by tier as it isn't that much better. Ditto N.Y. placement except there the difference is much greater, hence the change in position. This was thoroughly hashed out here: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 8&start=50
As for Michigan, it's been on it's way out for 30 years. Right now it places about as well as Cornell. In another 30 years it will be Boston College without a major market.
And it's raining Bridge to Practice grants in Durham.
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I'd love to know as well.BoomBoom1986 wrote:It's 19 degrees and snowing in Ann Arbor.
And it's raining Bridge to Practice grants in Durham.
What are these?
(BTW it's a cool 67 degrees and sunny skies here in socal

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That link is you just talking BS -- I remember when it was active.[/quote]It's 19 degrees and snowing in Ann Arbor.As for Michigan, it's been on it's way out for 30 years. Right now it places about as well as Cornell. In another 30 years it will be Boston College without a major market.
And it's raining Bridge to Practice grants in Durham.[/quote]
What are these?[/quote]
It's where Duke pays employers to take on the students at the very bottom of the class. While this is styled as a criticism, I think it's more properly a bonus. If you utterly fail in law school Duke will pay someone to employ you; good luck to the similarly situated at UVA and Michigan.[/quote][/quote]
Yeah, that seems like a good thing.
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It isn't terrible except that so many people need them. (edit: Which was the point of comment)BoomBoom1986 wrote: Yeah, that seems like a good thing.
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Well how many? And more importantly, are employment prospects better at Michigan, Penn and UVA than at Duke?AreJay711 wrote:It isn't terrible except that so many people need them. (edit: Which was the point of comment)BoomBoom1986 wrote: Yeah, that seems like a good thing.
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TLS conventional wisdom is that DC doesn't have many loyalties to local schools, instead taking the top of the class from a wide variety of schools. I bet that is dependent on practice area though. In my practice area of choice (not litigation) there are always lots of "local" school grads at DC/Northern VA firmsquakeroats wrote:Excellent point. My posts are about relative placement. It's all just a different shade of brown at the moment.IAFG wrote:Is any school really "good" for DC biglaw?
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Idk, quaker is the only one who I have seen that says Duke is on par. NU is but not necessarily because of the strength of the school but possibly because of the WE students have. I find this decently compelling:BoomBoom1986 wrote:Well how many? And more importantly, are employment prospects better at Michigan, Penn and UVA than at Duke?AreJay711 wrote:It isn't terrible except that so many people need them. (edit: Which was the point of comment)BoomBoom1986 wrote: Yeah, that seems like a good thing.
http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 1&t=108528 - A clerkship + Biglaw composite someone on TLS made.
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