How Many 170+ Applicants per cycle Forum
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How Many 170+ Applicants per cycle
How many 170+ applicants are there per admissions cycle?
And between them how many places are they contesting for? Are they mostly expecting T6? T14? or perhaps lower?
And between them how many places are they contesting for? Are they mostly expecting T6? T14? or perhaps lower?
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Re: How Many 170+ Applicants per cycle
The math isn't that hard.
If around 140,000 people (is that a good ballpark number?) take the test in a cycle, and 2.6% of those people score 170+, that's around 3,640 people with 170+. From incoming class sizes and LSAT medians, my rough guess is that almost 2,000 of those are at HYSCCN, accounting for the bulk of the incoming classes (close to 100% at HY).
That leaves ~1600-1800 170+ scores outside the T6. Obviously, the percentage of the incoming class with a score above 170 will fall as you move down the rankings. I haven't done the math, but my guess is that the number of 170+ scores outside the T100 is statistically negligible--a few outliers who attend low-ranked schools for reasons of their own (finances, location, etc.) There are probably also a certain number of 170s who end up not attending law school at all, for various reasons, but I have no idea how many that is in a given year.
If around 140,000 people (is that a good ballpark number?) take the test in a cycle, and 2.6% of those people score 170+, that's around 3,640 people with 170+. From incoming class sizes and LSAT medians, my rough guess is that almost 2,000 of those are at HYSCCN, accounting for the bulk of the incoming classes (close to 100% at HY).
That leaves ~1600-1800 170+ scores outside the T6. Obviously, the percentage of the incoming class with a score above 170 will fall as you move down the rankings. I haven't done the math, but my guess is that the number of 170+ scores outside the T100 is statistically negligible--a few outliers who attend low-ranked schools for reasons of their own (finances, location, etc.) There are probably also a certain number of 170s who end up not attending law school at all, for various reasons, but I have no idea how many that is in a given year.
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Re: How Many 170+ Applicants per cycle
Your math is pretty off because it doesn't account for retakes. I would guess around 1500-2200 take it, get above a 170 and attend
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Re: How Many 170+ Applicants per cycle
Willing to admit I wasn't accounting for retakes, but I'm not entirely sure which step, if any, they should be included in.bigkahuna2020 wrote:Your math is pretty off because it doesn't account for retakes. I would guess around 1500-2200 take it, get above a 170 and attend
I was under the impression that the test is taken 140,000 times (or whatever the number is in a given year) by fewer than 140,000 people, because the 140K counts people taking it more than once. Does a score's percentile mean the score was better than X% of 140,000 total tests taken, or X% of number of discrete test-takers, only counting their best score?
Also, if HLSCCN's reported LSAT stats and incoming class sizes are correct, there have to be at least ~1700-1800 170+ scores matriculating just at those six schools. Your total would barely account for those, let alone any at the rest of the T14 or T50 or T100.
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Re: How Many 170+ Applicants per cycle
As a side note: There are approximately 4,412 first year spots at the Top 14. Add about 1,923 for 15 through 20 = 6,335 first years at the Top 20 law schools.
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Re: How Many 170+ Applicants per cycle
Many people might wait a cycle/2/more to apply after getting their score.
Some 170+ never apply. (Personally know someone who scored a 170 in 2009 and has no intention of ever pursuing law - it was his backup plan.)
Some 170+ never apply. (Personally know someone who scored a 170 in 2009 and has no intention of ever pursuing law - it was his backup plan.)
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Re: How Many 170+ Applicants per cycle
Too many.
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Re: How Many 170+ Applicants per cycle
Looks like the number of LSATs taken has jumped up significantly since 2007/2008 when it was still around 140,000... for the 2009/2010 cycle there were 171,514. So that might affect the T14 statistics too.
http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Data/ ... stered.asp
http://www.lsac.org/LSACResources/Data/ ... stered.asp