What is a reach? a safety? a target? Forum
- lalalawya

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What is a reach? a safety? a target?
What is considered a "reach?"
There are a couple of schools where I am slightly above the 25%, but LSACs ABA-predictor has my chance for admittance between 44-54%. Is this a reach? The chance for admissions seems a little high for it to be a true reach, but I am below both medians so I don't know...
Safety?
I am above 75% for LSAT and at median for GPA. ABA predictor has my chance for admissions as 90%
Target?
A school that I am at the median for LSAT but below median for GPA has the prediction of about 65-73%...a chance of 65% seems a little low for it to be a "true" target...
Thoughts?
Thank ya!
There are a couple of schools where I am slightly above the 25%, but LSACs ABA-predictor has my chance for admittance between 44-54%. Is this a reach? The chance for admissions seems a little high for it to be a true reach, but I am below both medians so I don't know...
Safety?
I am above 75% for LSAT and at median for GPA. ABA predictor has my chance for admissions as 90%
Target?
A school that I am at the median for LSAT but below median for GPA has the prediction of about 65-73%...a chance of 65% seems a little low for it to be a "true" target...
Thoughts?
Thank ya!
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whymeohgodno

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
Below both medians = Reach
Hit both medians = Target
Hit both 75th = Safety
Hit both medians = Target
Hit both 75th = Safety
- Barbie

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
I've been accepted to my targets, which had my only at 55% or so for acceptance. I don't read much into LSP though. If you're @ the medians it's a target. If you're below one median its a reach, if you're below both medians (or way below one) its a huge reach, and if you're above both medians, then I would call it a safety.
- lalalawya

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The predictor through LSAC confused me though, which is why I was wanting to hear opinions. I was confused as to why they had me at a 50% chance for a school I am below both medians for. Thanks for your input!Barbie wrote:I've been accepted to my targets, which had my only at 55% or so for acceptance. I don't read much into LSP though. If you're @ the medians it's a target. If you're below one median its a reach, if you're below both medians (or way below one) its a huge reach, and if you're above both medians, then I would call it a safety.
- Grizz

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
This.Barbie wrote:I've been accepted to my targets, which had my only at 55% or so for acceptance. I don't read much into LSP though. If you're @ the medians it's a target. If you're below one median its a reach, if you're below both medians (or way below one) its a huge reach, and if you're above both medians, then I would call it a safety.
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whymeohgodno

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
ABA predictor hasn't updated its medians.lalalawya wrote:Yeah, that's what I was thinking. The predictor through LSAC confused me though, which is why I was wanting to hear opinions. I was confused as to why they had me at a 50% chance for a school I am below both medians for. Thanks for your input!Barbie wrote:I've been accepted to my targets, which had my only at 55% or so for acceptance. I don't read much into LSP though. If you're @ the medians it's a target. If you're below one median its a reach, if you're below both medians (or way below one) its a huge reach, and if you're above both medians, then I would call it a safety.
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dissonance1848

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
If you are above the LSAT 75% and below the 25% GPA of a school, is that like being around both of the school's medians?
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whymeohgodno

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
No, it means you are a splitter and depending on the school it could mean you stand a good shot or you should expect an auto reject.dissonance1848 wrote:If you are above the LSAT 75% and below the 25% GPA of a school, is that like being around both of the school's medians?
- glitter178

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
no. that makes you a splitter. some schools like splitters and others don't.dissonance1848 wrote:If you are above the LSAT 75% and below the 25% GPA of a school, is that like being around both of the school's medians?
- beachbum

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
Depends on the school. For splitters, use LSN to determine reaches/targets/safeties. For example, I'm way below WUSTL's GPA median, but I still consider it a (relative) safety.dissonance1848 wrote:If you are above the LSAT 75% and below the 25% GPA of a school, is that like being around both of the school's medians?
Lots of green around your numbers = safety
Mix of green/yellow = target
Mostly yellow/red = reach
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dissonance1848

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
I guess then that the schools I am applying to are targets/reaches.
- Gotti

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
this sucks. i'm a reverse splitter (3.95/164) and all my schools are reaches. fail.
- Grizz

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
For reverse splitters, TCR is almost always retake.Gotti wrote:this sucks. i'm a reverse splitter (3.95/164) and all my schools are reaches. fail.
- Ragged

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
That's a good rule of thumb.whymeohgodno wrote:Below both medians = Reach
Hit both medians = Target
Hit both 75th = Safety
Also, for being above/below its somewhere between a target and a reach. It depends on what and by how much. Seems like schools put more weight on the LSAT so being below LSAT median is tougher to overcome (more of a reach) than being below GPA (more of a target).
- Gotti

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
rad law wrote:For reverse splitters, TCR is almost always retake.Gotti wrote:this sucks. i'm a reverse splitter (3.95/164) and all my schools are reaches. fail.
that's my 2nd retake from 163
PS what's TCR?
- Ragged

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
The Credited Response. Its often preceeded by This Is, so you might also see TITCR.Gotti wrote:rad law wrote:For reverse splitters, TCR is almost always retake.Gotti wrote:this sucks. i'm a reverse splitter (3.95/164) and all my schools are reaches. fail.
that's my 2nd retake from 163
PS what's TCR?
- Grizz

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
The correct response.Gotti wrote:rad law wrote:For reverse splitters, TCR is almost always retake.Gotti wrote:this sucks. i'm a reverse splitter (3.95/164) and all my schools are reaches. fail.
that's my 2nd retake from 163
PS what's TCR?
Retake again or ED to UVA yesterday.
- egeffin

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
What would being below the median but above the 25% in GPA and at or above the 75% in LSAT?
- Ragged

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
Target.egeffin wrote:What would being below the median but above the 25% in GPA and at or above the 75% in LSAT?
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JJDancer

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
This might be silly but how precisely does one need to hit the median for targets?
Ex: LS's median is 3.67. Is having a 3.6x "hitting the median" or does it literally need to be 3.67 or higher?
Ex: LS's median is 3.67. Is having a 3.6x "hitting the median" or does it literally need to be 3.67 or higher?
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edubs003

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
The Kaplan book I have says "reach is below 40% chance, target is 40-80%, and safety is 80%" chance of admission. I'm guessing that they're getting those from the applicant profiles.
- Ragged

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
Its the latter.JJDancer wrote:This might be silly but how precisely does one need to hit the median for targets?
Ex: LS's median is 3.67. Is having a 3.6x "hitting the median" or does it literally need to be 3.67 or higher?
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whymeohgodno

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Re: What is a reach? a safety? a target?
You need to hit it.JJDancer wrote:This might be silly but how precisely does one need to hit the median for targets?
Ex: LS's median is 3.67. Is having a 3.6x "hitting the median" or does it literally need to be 3.67 or higher?