Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14? Forum
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Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
Does any one know where to find the statistics of applicants, as opposed to admits, to the top 14 law schools?
(In other words something that resembles this from UCLA's undergrad: http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect ... 09_mjr.htm which shows both applicant stats and admit stats)
I've been looking for it for the law schools but can't find it. All I find is the admitted student statistics that we all know about.
(In other words something that resembles this from UCLA's undergrad: http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect ... 09_mjr.htm which shows both applicant stats and admit stats)
I've been looking for it for the law schools but can't find it. All I find is the admitted student statistics that we all know about.
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
True, but I was hoping for something published by the law schools themselves. Because it would show the "average GPA/LSAT applied; and average GPA/LSAT admitted."
Such listings would be neatly organized, and moreover they'd be official, know what I mean?
Such listings would be neatly organized, and moreover they'd be official, know what I mean?
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
ComatoseClown wrote:True, but I was hoping for something published by the law schools themselves. Because it would show the "average GPA/LSAT applied; and average GPA/LSAT admitted."
Such listings would be neatly organized, and moreover they'd be official, know what I mean?

Good one
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
Only a few schools post this. GWU is one of them, link is below.
http://www.law.gwu.edu/Admissions/JD/Pages/Profile.aspx
http://www.law.gwu.edu/Admissions/JD/Pages/Profile.aspx
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
Why don't more schools post this? Do they want to convince us it's not all about the numbers?
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I think that this shows that it isn't all about the numbers. Showing that not all applicants above threshold x/y were offered admission indicates they are considering other elements.whymeohgodno wrote:Why don't more schools post this? Do they want to convince us it's not all about the numbers?
Maybe other schools have more disheartening grids.
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
Your UG prelaw advisor has those stats for applicants from your UG.
LSAC does have the applicant data for every school (at least for applicants who apply through LSAC, which is probably the vast majority of them), but they must choose not to release it.
LSAC does have the applicant data for every school (at least for applicants who apply through LSAC, which is probably the vast majority of them), but they must choose not to release it.
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
I don't get it. What's the point of knowing this?
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
Yale: http://officialguide.lsac.org/Release/S ... AC3987.pdf
Duke: http://officialguide.lsac.org/Release/S ... AC5156.pdf
Duke: http://officialguide.lsac.org/Release/S ... AC5156.pdf
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
Well you have to consider:bdubs wrote:I think that this shows that it isn't all about the numbers. Showing that not all applicants above threshold x/y were offered admission indicates they are considering other elements.whymeohgodno wrote:Why don't more schools post this? Do they want to convince us it's not all about the numbers?
Maybe other schools have more disheartening grids.
1. Multiple LSATs which grids don't count for
2. When the application came in. I would assume post Christmas applications could very well be a waitlist even though the applicant has strong numbers.
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
Prevailing thought seems to be that very few schools actually care about retakes anymore.whymeohgodno wrote:Well you have to consider:bdubs wrote:I think that this shows that it isn't all about the numbers. Showing that not all applicants above threshold x/y were offered admission indicates they are considering other elements.whymeohgodno wrote:Why don't more schools post this? Do they want to convince us it's not all about the numbers?
Maybe other schools have more disheartening grids.
1. Multiple LSATs which grids don't count for
2. When the application came in. I would assume post Christmas applications could very well be a waitlist even though the applicant has strong numbers.
I fail to see how timing is really a huge issue here, it should be relatively uniform across all applicant categories (unless you think a 4.0 GPA indicates you are less likely to apply around the deadline)
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
Maybe yield protection then?bdubs wrote:Prevailing thought seems to be that very few schools actually care about retakes anymore.whymeohgodno wrote:Well you have to consider:bdubs wrote:I think that this shows that it isn't all about the numbers. Showing that not all applicants above threshold x/y were offered admission indicates they are considering other elements.whymeohgodno wrote:Why don't more schools post this? Do they want to convince us it's not all about the numbers?
Maybe other schools have more disheartening grids.
1. Multiple LSATs which grids don't count for
2. When the application came in. I would assume post Christmas applications could very well be a waitlist even though the applicant has strong numbers.
I fail to see how timing is really a huge issue here, it should be relatively uniform across all applicant categories (unless you think a 4.0 GPA indicates you are less likely to apply around the deadline)
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
any other link to such schools as ucla, usc, uc davis/hastings/irvine, GU, cornell?
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
A lot of these can probably be found on LSAC.org ... if you select a school, it should give you the option to select "ABA School Data" or something. Many of the pages have grids like those you see above.paulshortys10 wrote:any other link to such schools as ucla, usc, uc davis/hastings/irvine, GU, cornell?
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
The Duke stats really confound me.
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
The bands for Duke are so wide that they are pretty much useless. 170-180 is a big big grouping which encompasses a large number of their admits.whymeohgodno wrote:The Duke stats really confound me.
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
But I mean...3.75+/170+ that means they were above both medians (during that cycle).bdubs wrote:The bands for Duke are so wide that they are pretty much useless. 170-180 is a big big grouping which encompasses a large number of their admits.whymeohgodno wrote:The Duke stats really confound me.
So did Duke become really holistic or has TLS wisdom about numbers been wrong? I mean over half weren't admitted wth.
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Failure to write a "why duke"?? Seems like a YP issue to me, they do WL a number of people on PT (usually above at least LSAT median).whymeohgodno wrote:But I mean...3.75+/170+ that means they were above both medians (during that cycle).bdubs wrote:The bands for Duke are so wide that they are pretty much useless. 170-180 is a big big grouping which encompasses a large number of their admits.whymeohgodno wrote:The Duke stats really confound me.
So did Duke become really holistic or has TLS wisdom about numbers been wrong? I mean over half weren't admitted wth.
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I hope it's a YP issue. I seriously do.bdubs wrote:Failure to write a "why duke"?? Seems like a YP issue to me, they do WL a number of people on PT (usually above at least LSAT median).whymeohgodno wrote:But I mean...3.75+/170+ that means they were above both medians (during that cycle).bdubs wrote:The bands for Duke are so wide that they are pretty much useless. 170-180 is a big big grouping which encompasses a large number of their admits.whymeohgodno wrote:The Duke stats really confound me.
So did Duke become really holistic or has TLS wisdom about numbers been wrong? I mean over half weren't admitted wth.
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
where is duke's?
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
http://officialguide.lsac.org/Release/S ... AC5156.pdfMissLucky wrote:where is duke's?
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
Go on the LSAC site and look at the school profiles. UCLA and USC put them out, GULC and Cornell don't. I am not applying to davis/hastings/irvine so i didn't look.paulshortys10 wrote:any other link to such schools as ucla, usc, uc davis/hastings/irvine, GU, cornell?
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
Could this be explained by the fact that we're talking "admitted" rather than "offered admittance". I have no idea how big Duke's class is
edit: oops nm probly not that big
edit: oops nm probly not that big
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Re: Statistics for APPLICANTS, as opposed to ADMITS, for T-14?
yep pretty much every single school has them up on LSAC....u have to download the school description PDF..
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