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northphx

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Help with Resume Please!
I already have several years of professional work experience. Should I still put extracurricular activities on my resume? I had some interesting ones in college.
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Adu

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I would; i don't think it will hurt you.
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Yeah if it fits. Make sure it looks pro though, no more than one pagenorthphx wrote:I already have several years of professional work experience. Should I still put extracurricular activities on my resume? I had some interesting ones in college.
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rando

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^ ehh. with several years of professional work experience, OP can extend past one page if needed.
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If you go more than one page, try to use the entire second page. It looks silly to have a full page and then 1/3 of a page.
I'm agnostic to whether you should put your extracurricular stuff on there. I think I'll probably just put a double-collumned bulleted list of what I did during college since I have several years of professional experience as well.
I'm agnostic to whether you should put your extracurricular stuff on there. I think I'll probably just put a double-collumned bulleted list of what I did during college since I have several years of professional experience as well.
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northphx

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I have always kept my resume within one page for job applications. However, I just edited it by adding my academic honors and awards as well as extracurricular activities. Now it's just a little under two full pages. Can I add a few references to make it 2 full pages? It does look a little silly now.
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It looks pretentious for anyone w/ less than a decade of WE to have a resume that's more than one single-spaced page, unless you're applying for academe w/ a C.V.
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rando

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There's no hard and fast 10yr rule. OP says s/he has several years professional work experience. In the end it comes down to a subjective judgment call depending on how much relevant material there is.MrKappus wrote:It looks pretentious for anyone w/ less than a decade of WE to have a resume that's more than one single-spaced page, unless you're applying for academe w/ a C.V.
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northphx

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MrKappus wrote:It looks pretentious for anyone w/ less than a decade of WE to have a resume that's more than one single-spaced page, unless you're applying for academe w/ a C.V.
Hmm... isn't law school sort of academia? I agree that there has be a balance. I happen to have an advanced degree with publications as well as 5 years of industry experience. Tough choice if I have to keep it under one page.
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rando wrote:There's no hard and fast 10yr rule. OP says s/he has several years professional work experience. In the end it comes down to a subjective judgment call depending on how much relevant material there is.MrKappus wrote:It looks pretentious for anyone w/ less than a decade of WE to have a resume that's more than one single-spaced page, unless you're applying for academe w/ a C.V.
Fine. There's no hard and fast 10 year rule. But 95% of resumes should be a page long.
It's a brief synopsis of your background, not an exhaustive record of every project and accomplishment you've ever worked on or earned. Unless your background is extensive and impressive, this should only require one page. If its composed of internships, entry-level jobs, and/or college EC's...that takes one page (size 11 times new roman). This is, of course, just my opinion. One of my past jobs (on my one-page resume
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rando

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you're not reading. you're just going off on a tangent. This post isn't about entry-level jobs, college EC's or internships. OP has professional work experience, publications and an advanced degree. Your point seems entirely irrelevant to OP's situation. Whether or not OP is in your credited ~5% range I don't know.MrKappus wrote:rando wrote:There's no hard and fast 10yr rule. OP says s/he has several years professional work experience. In the end it comes down to a subjective judgment call depending on how much relevant material there is.MrKappus wrote:It looks pretentious for anyone w/ less than a decade of WE to have a resume that's more than one single-spaced page, unless you're applying for academe w/ a C.V.![]()
Fine. There's no hard and fast 10 year rule. But 95% of resumes should be a page long.
It's a brief synopsis of your background, not an exhaustive record of every project and accomplishment you've ever worked on or earned. Unless your background is extensive and impressive, this should only require one page. If its composed of internships, entry-level jobs, and/or college EC's...that takes one page (size 11 times new roman). This is, of course, just my opinion. One of my past jobs (on my one-page resume) related to corporate HR, but maybe it's different for LS admissions. But especially if the app has places to list your EC's, I'd be careful about repeating them on your resume.
Everything that has been said ITT has been qualified with the 1pg. rule and considerations for whether OP can exceed that. Nothing has been said to provoke your non-responsive post.
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- TommyK

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References should not be on a resume. It should be a separate page.northphx wrote:I have always kept my resume within one page for job applications. However, I just edited it by adding my academic honors and awards as well as extracurricular activities. Now it's just a little under two full pages. Can I add a few references to make it 2 full pages? It does look a little silly now.
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People always speak of the one-page resume rule like it's sacred. It's really not. I'm a corporate recruiter and I've partnered with hundreds of hiring managers to fill thousands of jobs and I've never heard a hiring manager scoff at, or outright dismiss somebody because of the length of their resume.MrKappus wrote:rando wrote:There's no hard and fast 10yr rule. OP says s/he has several years professional work experience. In the end it comes down to a subjective judgment call depending on how much relevant material there is.MrKappus wrote:It looks pretentious for anyone w/ less than a decade of WE to have a resume that's more than one single-spaced page, unless you're applying for academe w/ a C.V.![]()
Fine. There's no hard and fast 10 year rule. But 95% of resumes should be a page long.
It's a brief synopsis of your background, not an exhaustive record of every project and accomplishment you've ever worked on or earned. Unless your background is extensive and impressive, this should only require one page. If its composed of internships, entry-level jobs, and/or college EC's...that takes one page (size 11 times new roman). This is, of course, just my opinion. One of my past jobs (on my one-page resume) related to corporate HR, but maybe it's different for LS admissions. But especially if the app has places to list your EC's, I'd be careful about repeating them on your resume.
You just need to make the judgement call on whether you're going over-the-top. As somebody else said - it's subjective and it needs to fit your purposes.
For the OP, I would definitely list published academic papers, presentations at conferences along with the work experience. I think the two first things present you in a light that differentiates you starkly from your peers. You clearly know how to write at a high level and those presentations (depending on the field or conference) can be pretty competitive. I'm sure you have enough to fill two pages without looking ridiculous.
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(1) My post is responsive to your post that there is not "hard and fast rule" about 10 years of WE.rando wrote:you're not reading. you're just going off on a tangent. This post isn't about entry-level jobs, college EC's or internships. OP has professional work experience, publications and an advanced degree. Your point seems entirely irrelevant to OP's situation. Whether or not OP is in your credited ~5% range I don't know.
Everything that has been said ITT has been qualified with the 1pg. rule and considerations for whether OP can exceed that. Nothing has been said to provoke your non-responsive post.
(2) The OP explicitly mentions EC's. "You're not reading," apparently.
OP: if you have an advanced degree and have publications, a C.V. that's more than one page is, by all means, appropriate.northphx wrote:I already have several years of professional work experience. Should I still put extracurricular activities on my resume? I had some interesting ones in college.
Edit: A little bit of helpful quoting/bolding to help rando with his "reading."
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MEOW!! HISS!!MrKappus wrote:OP: if you have an advanced degree and have publications, a C.V. that's more than one page is, by all means, appropriate.northphx wrote:I already have several years of professional work experience. Should I still put extracurricular activities on my resume? I had some interesting ones in college.
Edit: A little bit of helpful quoting/bolding to help rando with his "reading."
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rando

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Appropriate eye-roll here. And still non-responsive to the context of this thread. Yes, OP mentioned putting in extracurbiculurs. But not making his resume 2 pages "composed of EC's" as you pointed out.MrKappus wrote:(1) My post is responsive to your post that there is not "hard and fast rule" about 10 years of WE.rando wrote:you're not reading. you're just going off on a tangent. This post isn't about entry-level jobs, college EC's or internships. OP has professional work experience, publications and an advanced degree. Your point seems entirely irrelevant to OP's situation. Whether or not OP is in your credited ~5% range I don't know.
Everything that has been said ITT has been qualified with the 1pg. rule and considerations for whether OP can exceed that. Nothing has been said to provoke your non-responsive post.
(2) The OP explicitly mentions EC's. "You're not reading," apparently.
OP: if you have an advanced degree and have publications, a C.V. that's more than one page is, by all means, appropriate.northphx wrote:I already have several years of professional work experience. Should I still put extracurricular activities on my resume? I had some interesting ones in college.
Edit: A little bit of helpful quoting/bolding to help rando with his "reading."
Solid de-rail of an otherwise helpful thread thus far. Nice work MrK.
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Rando's still off-base, but edited to avoid further derailment.
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rando

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sigh. I feel bad for you MK.
OP. You should weigh how relevant the extra information that you are putting on your resume and whether it is worth breaking the one page barrier.
As mentioned, your publications, speaking engagements and academic honors are very relevant. I am not really big on including interests, EC's etc. but if you are going over 1pg. anyway, as someone else mentioned you should shoot for 1.5-2 pgs.
Best of luck.
OP. You should weigh how relevant the extra information that you are putting on your resume and whether it is worth breaking the one page barrier.
As mentioned, your publications, speaking engagements and academic honors are very relevant. I am not really big on including interests, EC's etc. but if you are going over 1pg. anyway, as someone else mentioned you should shoot for 1.5-2 pgs.
Best of luck.
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