Ever Wonder What Sort of Person Gets Into Yale With a 160? Forum

[Veyron]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/28/fashi ... .html?_r=1

[sumus romani]

Thanks for that. I had always wondered

[dominkay]

Ugh, I hate her.

[mec30]

One day, in her criminal law class, while discussing the differences in sentencing guidelines for cocaine- and crack-related offenses. Ms. Wurtzel said, “Cocaine is a party and crack is a crime spree.”

LOL. Man I wish I could have sat in on that class.

[Jack Smirks]

How's she going to pass the C &F?

[Veyron]

^ Hell, if murderers can pass it... Its all about disclosure - and I think that her books took care of that.

[dominkay]

How's she going to pass the C &F?

It's an old article. She passed. Actually, she failed the bar the first time she took it. But she has since passed.

[Jack Smirks]

^ Hell, if murderers can pass it... Its all about disclosure - and I think that her books took care of that.

The only murderer I know that passed C&F was in AZ and was subsequently disbarred.

[let/them/eat/cake]

Ms. Wurtzel denied that these reversals of literary fortune had anything to do with her decision to apply to law school. The events of 9/11, she said, left her paralyzed with fear and largely unable to write.

“I really had the feeling that the whole world had gone crazy,” she said. “I felt very powerless. If I’d been a lawyer, I would have known what to do.”

that's the most patently ridiculous statement i've read all week. and i've been screwing around on the internet incessantly.

[MissLucky]

what was her GPA?

[sumus romani]

Ms. Wurtzel denied that these reversals of literary fortune had anything to do with her decision to apply to law school. The events of 9/11, she said, left her paralyzed with fear and largely unable to write.

“I really had the feeling that the whole world had gone crazy,” she said. “I felt very powerless. If I’d been a lawyer, I would have known what to do.”

that's the most patently ridiculous statement i've read all week. and i've been screwing around on the internet incessantly.

To be fair, tens of thousands of PSs say something just like this every year. It's all blah, blah, blah, and that made me want to be a lawyer. She was just in a rare position and parlayed her witnessing 9/11 into a Yale admit. I'm sure others used 9/11 to get laid, etc. And I'm sure that many PSs say something just as ludicrous.

[sumus romani]

what was her GPA?

The article doesn't say her undergrad GPA, and Yale Law doesn't have GPA's. The article is well-written--so check it out.

[Jack Smirks]

what was her GPA?

^ Thinks she now has a chance at Yale.

[rayiner]

So she looked to law school as a solution. An honors graduate of Harvard, she applied to New York University, Columbia and her alma mater, but set her sights on Yale.

[doyleoil]

The answer to the thread question is "The sort of person who isn't capable of buckling down and passing the bar exam the first time around."

[MissLucky]

what was her GPA?

^ Thinks she now has a chance at Yale.

hahahahahahhahaa...definitely contemplating going down this route if i can't get my lsat up

[Jack Smirks]

what was her GPA?

^ Thinks she now has a chance at Yale.

hahahahahahhahaa...definitely contemplating going down this route if i can't get my lsat up

Try heroin and write a book, that will get your foot in the door.

[Knock]

Interesting article, thanks for sharing.

Honestly though, I feel like YLS made a mistake here. While obviously very intelligent, she exhibited extended drug use and numerous examples of unlawful behavior, including smuggling cocaine in her diaphragm in Scandanavia.

As I read that article, I felt that all I got out of it was that she was immature, and just one of those people who try and be shocking for the sake of attention or no reason at all, as evidenced by her not even bothering to do the readings at first, and having to take a break, as well as some of her comments in class.

I just don't agree that being ridiculous = good law school applicant. I'm sure there were dozens of qualified people who were law-abidizing citizens that could have used that spot. I also don't think this sends a good message. Hey, do a lot of drugs, write a book detailing your numerous law-breaking behavior, it's okay, we will still accept you to the premier law school in the country.

[dominkay]

Interesting article, thanks for sharing.

Honestly though, I feel like YLS made a mistake here. While obviously very intelligent, she exhibited extended drug use and numerous examples of unlawful behavior, including smuggling cocaine in her diaphragm in Scandanavia.

As I read that article, I felt that all I got out of it was that she was immature, and just one of those people who try and be shocking for the sake of attention or no reason at all, as evidenced by her not even bothering to do the readings at first, and having to take a break, as well as some of her comments in class.

I just don't agree that being ridiculous = good law school applicant. I'm sure there were dozens of qualified people who were law-abidizing citizens that could have used that spot. I also don't think this sends a good message. Hey, do a lot of drugs, write a book detailing your numerous law-breaking behavior, it's okay, we will still accept you to the premier law school in the country.

I don't think she's exceptionally intelligent. I mean, she's not a dummy, but she sure acts like one.

[Knock]

Interesting article, thanks for sharing.

Honestly though, I feel like YLS made a mistake here. While obviously very intelligent, she exhibited extended drug use and numerous examples of unlawful behavior, including smuggling cocaine in her diaphragm in Scandanavia.

As I read that article, I felt that all I got out of it was that she was immature, and just one of those people who try and be shocking for the sake of attention or no reason at all, as evidenced by her not even bothering to do the readings at first, and having to take a break, as well as some of her comments in class.

I just don't agree that being ridiculous = good law school applicant. I'm sure there were dozens of qualified people who were law-abidizing citizens that could have used that spot. I also don't think this sends a good message. Hey, do a lot of drugs, write a book detailing your numerous law-breaking behavior, it's okay, we will still accept you to the premier law school in the country.

I don't think she's exceptionally intelligent. I mean, she's not a dummy, but she sure acts like one.

Fair enough. I mean she graduated with honors from Harvard, so she obviously should be able to do better on the LSAT. Usually people that get into top law schools with outlier-low LSAT are URMs; the reasoning behind this is that minorities has statistically shown to score lower on the LSAT than caucasians, also, minorities are more likely to come from low socioeconomic families. This lady had neither. White, and (relatively) rich from her book deals. She also had as much time as she needed to study for the LSAT i'm sure. Yet she score a 160. The median LSAT score out of Harvard is a 165. If she got honors at Harvard, there is no reason she couldn't score higher. Personally I would be turned off by perceived lack of effort, which makes her initial laziness pretty predictable.

[LoyolaLaw2012]

Interesting article, thanks for sharing.



Fair enough. I mean she graduated with honors from Harvard, so she obviously should be able to do better on the LSAT. Usually people that get into top law schools with outlier-low LSAT are URMs; the reasoning behind this is that minorities has statistically shown to score lower on the LSAT than caucasians, also, minorities are more likely to come from low socioeconomic families. This lady had neither. White, and (relatively) rich from her book deals. She also had as much time as she needed to study for the LSAT i'm sure. Yet she score a 160. The median LSAT score out of Harvard is a 165. If she got honors at Harvard, there is no reason she couldn't score higher. Personally I would be turned off by perceived lack of effort, which makes her initial laziness pretty predictable.

Maybe she just doesn't do well on standardized tests. My classmate is second in our class, but scored terribly on the LSAT. I think Harvard found her life experience intriguing. Also, doesn't Harvard accept a few applicants every year with very low LSAT scores? Are they only URMs?

[Knock]

Interesting article, thanks for sharing.



Fair enough. I mean she graduated with honors from Harvard, so she obviously should be able to do better on the LSAT. Usually people that get into top law schools with outlier-low LSAT are URMs; the reasoning behind this is that minorities has statistically shown to score lower on the LSAT than caucasians, also, minorities are more likely to come from low socioeconomic families. This lady had neither. White, and (relatively) rich from her book deals. She also had as much time as she needed to study for the LSAT i'm sure. Yet she score a 160. The median LSAT score out of Harvard is a 165. If she got honors at Harvard, there is no reason she couldn't score higher. Personally I would be turned off by perceived lack of effort, which makes her initial laziness pretty predictable.

Maybe she just doesn't do well on standardized tests. My classmate is second in our class, but scored terribly on the LSAT. I think Harvard found her life experience intriguing. Also, doesn't Harvard accept a few applicants every year with very low LSAT scores? Are they only URMs?

IDK, but I think there is a difference between not doing well on standardized test, and scoring a 160 as a wealthy, Harvard educated caucasian. Did she even try and retake? for someone so set on Yale she didn't seem to be very dedicated or hard-working.

[shutterbug]

Just think of how many TLS'ers would have yelled "RETAKE" to her.

[LoyolaLaw2012]

IDK, but I think there is a difference between not doing well on standardized test, and scoring a 160 as a wealthy, Harvard educated caucasian. Did she even try and retake? for someone so set on Yale she didn't seem to be very dedicated or hard-working.

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She also had the advantage of being on coke. She should have at least scored a 165.

[Thomas Jefferson]

Just think of how many TLS'ers would have yelled "RETAKE" to her.

I think most would have called flame.