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Re: Chances for T14?

Post by clintonius » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:34 pm

kk19131 wrote:
Sauer Grapes wrote:
kk19131 wrote:
*I consider being waitlisted an admission*
I can't believe no one mentioned schools using WL as a soft reject. A LOT of schools do that in the T14. How should I consider my WL at Columbia? Do you really thing they had any intention of accepting me later? Probably not.

Northwestern is by far this guy's best shot, and if he wants to play it safe he'll ED as early as he can. That being said, I'd just apply to the entire T14 (minus HYS probably) as early as possible and see how it pans out.
I have no idea what the school's intentions were.

What I do know is that if they wanted to reject you, they would have done it outright.
I'm curious as to how you know this. The "waitlist-as-soft-rejection" phenomenon is a pretty widespread one. Look, for example, at how many people Harvard waitlists compared to its class size. There is no way they intend to take any but the smallest fraction of those people. HLS has the courtesy to outright reject most WLers sometime in the summer, and many schools don't do that, even though they have no intention of admitting you.

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Re: Chances for T14?

Post by kk19131 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:35 pm

clintonius wrote:
kk19131 wrote:
Sauer Grapes wrote:
kk19131 wrote:
*I consider being waitlisted an admission*
I can't believe no one mentioned schools using WL as a soft reject. A LOT of schools do that in the T14. How should I consider my WL at Columbia? Do you really thing they had any intention of accepting me later? Probably not.

Northwestern is by far this guy's best shot, and if he wants to play it safe he'll ED as early as he can. That being said, I'd just apply to the entire T14 (minus HYS probably) as early as possible and see how it pans out.
I have no idea what the school's intentions were.

What I do know is that if they wanted to reject you, they would have done it outright.
I'm curious as to how you know this. The "waitlist-as-soft-rejection" phenomenon is a pretty widespread one. Look, for example, at how many people Harvard waitlists compared to its class size. There is no way they intend to take any but the smallest fraction of those people. HLS has the courtesy to outright reject most WLers sometime in the summer, and many schools don't do that, even though they have no intention of admitting you.
What's the purpose of the waitlist?

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Re: Chances for T14?

Post by clintonius » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:09 pm

Oh dear sweet lord, isn't that EXACTLY what's in contention here? I'm not saying that I have information that proves you wrong, but I'm saying I don't think you have any way to be as confident in your assertion as you were. But fine, your question was penetrating and something that neither I nor the others questioning you on this front had ever thought to ask ourselves.

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Re: Chances for T14?

Post by Eruannon » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:14 pm

I agree he should probably just apply to the whole T14 and some safeties/probably scholarships in the T25.

OP: If you email the schools with your LSAT and say you are interested in applying and was wondering if you can get a fee waiver, most of them will send you one within a day or two. This makes applying to 14 schools a hell of a lot more manageable.

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