Does it really matter? Forum

(Applications Advice, Letters of Recommendation . . . )
Post Reply
User avatar
chanchito

Bronze
Posts: 118
Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:06 pm

Does it really matter?

Post by chanchito » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:00 pm

If you are accepted to one of the top 5, does it then matter which one it is? I mean...would a law firm think- let's take this Harvard kid above the Columbia one because of the school? Or does it not matter at that level? Does Yale really have an advantage? (apart from academia)

User avatar
Helmholtz

Gold
Posts: 4128
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:48 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by Helmholtz » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:05 pm

Yes, it matters.

User avatar
NUMB3RFIFTY

New
Posts: 55
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:10 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by NUMB3RFIFTY » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:08 pm

I think marginal differences in prestige will only be scrutinized in special cases.

User avatar
Tangerine Gleam

Silver
Posts: 1280
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2009 4:50 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by Tangerine Gleam » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:11 pm

All that really matters is that you have a Bichon 'tar. :evil:

I think it matters, but the extent will be incidental. Harvard vs. Columbia? Yes. Harvard vs. Yale? Columbia vs. NYU? I don't really think so.

User avatar
faceman9000

New
Posts: 95
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:34 am

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by faceman9000 » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:12 pm

What do you mean by "matter"?

User avatar
vanwinkle

Platinum
Posts: 8953
Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:02 am

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by vanwinkle » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:13 pm

chanchito wrote:If you are accepted to one of the top 5, does it then matter which one it is? I mean...would a law firm think- let's take this Harvard kid above the Columbia one because of the school? Or does it not matter at that level? Does Yale really have an advantage? (apart from academia)
It matters, but it matters less than the difference between any of those 5 and the 195 schools below them.

User avatar
romothesavior

Diamond
Posts: 14692
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:29 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by romothesavior » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:16 pm

I think it matters to some degree. Think of it this way... if two equally qualified individuals were up for a job and you were hiring, and one went to NYU and the other went to Yale, don't you think you would give a slight edge to the Yale kid? This bias towards HY may be unreasonable and even subconscious, but I think human beings are naturally inclined towards valuing prestige. I think most people are usually :o when they meet an NYU or Columbia grad, but :shock: when they meet a Yale or Harvard grad (or at least I am). The boost is more psychological than anything and it probably isn't substantial, but I do think it is real.

User avatar
ValiantVic

Bronze
Posts: 164
Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 6:58 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by ValiantVic » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:16 pm

Helmholtz wrote:Yes, it matters.
But what if it didn't. What. If. It. Didn't.

User avatar
chanchito

Bronze
Posts: 118
Joined: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:06 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by chanchito » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:19 pm

By whether it matters, I mean if you would receive a boost from it.

But maybe it's just a little point to look at, and they'd have to see all that you have on your resume.

Mr. Pablo

Bronze
Posts: 283
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 8:21 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by Mr. Pablo » Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:24 pm

Tangerine Gleam wrote:All that really matters is that you have a Bichon 'tar. :evil:

I think it matters, but the extent will be incidental. Harvard vs. Columbia? Yes. Harvard vs. Yale? Columbia vs. NYU? I don't really think so.
Or a Stella(r) 'tar.

D. H2Oman

Platinum
Posts: 7445
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:47 am

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by D. H2Oman » Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:52 am

Helmholtz wrote:Yes, it matters.
+1

Kronk

Diamond
Posts: 32987
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:18 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by Kronk » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:09 am

D. H2Oman wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:Yes, it matters.
+1
TOTALLY matters.

APimpNamedSlickback

Silver
Posts: 867
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:33 am

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by APimpNamedSlickback » Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:09 am

Kronk wrote:
D. H2Oman wrote:
Helmholtz wrote:Yes, it matters.
+1
TOTALLY matters.
i am dying. this is surreal.

User avatar
faceman9000

New
Posts: 95
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:34 am

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by faceman9000 » Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:54 pm

What do you mean by "boost"?

User avatar
Mattalones

Silver
Posts: 528
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:18 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by Mattalones » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:01 am

faceman9000 wrote:What do you mean by "boost"?
Which of the following best represents the authors intended use of the word "boost?"

A)Image
B) --ImageRemoved--
C) Image
D) Image

User avatar
RVP11

Gold
Posts: 2774
Joined: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:32 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by RVP11 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:07 am

NUMB3RFIFTY wrote:I think marginal differences in prestige will only be scrutinized in special cases.
I think that's wrong.

User avatar
thedogship

Bronze
Posts: 143
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:30 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by thedogship » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:15 am

Of course it matters. people pass up columbia for yale all the time because going to yale means better opportunities on average than columbia. people aren't choosing new haven over nyc, that's for sure.

Everything is relative, even at the top.

270910

Gold
Posts: 2431
Joined: Thu May 21, 2009 9:51 pm

Re: Does it really matter?

Post by 270910 » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:20 am

It matters, but your performance matters much more.

That is to say, median at Harvard vs. top quarter at Columbia is no contest, you want to be the guy who did well at Columbia. #1 in the class at H,Y,S,C,C, or most of the rest of the Top 14 are going to have similar options.

You have a wider margin at the top schools, and some unique opportunities - especially when it comes to clerkships, where judges are often HYS snobs.

Post Reply

Return to “Law School Admissions Forum”