3.91 LSAC GPA/169 LSAT...But My GPA...is it Tarnished? Help Forum
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thisisit

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3.91 LSAC GPA/169 LSAT...But My GPA...is it Tarnished? Help
First and foremost I need to preface that I am a Black Male, born in Kenya and came to the states when I was Five.
So I have a real concern with my application. I am a graduate of UC Berkeley where I majored in Economics and graduated with high honors and completed an honors thesis.
I completed my undergraduate degree with a 3.86 GPA and my LSAC GPA is a 3.91. with 126 semester units. Furthermore, I recently took the February LSAT and scored a 169. I am a Black male and I know my numbers are strong but my GPA is tarnished for several reasons.
1. I have two drops on my transcript. I dropped these classes during my freshmen and senior year.
2. I took one 5 unit class Pass/Fail. It’s the only class where I changed the
grading option to Pass/Fail as oppose Letter Grade.
3. During my senior year, my fall quarter there were some family issues (my
mother was sick) and I was going through emotional rollercoaster with finding my biological dad. In the end I took two incompletes (which I completed the next semester and got A’s in both classes) and dropped one of my course (this was one of the two drops I was talking about). After this semester, I went on spring semester and got a 4.00 and did summer school that year and got a 4.00
In short I want to know if these blemishes on my transcript will hurt my application this upcoming cycle or am I okay?
So I have a real concern with my application. I am a graduate of UC Berkeley where I majored in Economics and graduated with high honors and completed an honors thesis.
I completed my undergraduate degree with a 3.86 GPA and my LSAC GPA is a 3.91. with 126 semester units. Furthermore, I recently took the February LSAT and scored a 169. I am a Black male and I know my numbers are strong but my GPA is tarnished for several reasons.
1. I have two drops on my transcript. I dropped these classes during my freshmen and senior year.
2. I took one 5 unit class Pass/Fail. It’s the only class where I changed the
grading option to Pass/Fail as oppose Letter Grade.
3. During my senior year, my fall quarter there were some family issues (my
mother was sick) and I was going through emotional rollercoaster with finding my biological dad. In the end I took two incompletes (which I completed the next semester and got A’s in both classes) and dropped one of my course (this was one of the two drops I was talking about). After this semester, I went on spring semester and got a 4.00 and did summer school that year and got a 4.00
In short I want to know if these blemishes on my transcript will hurt my application this upcoming cycle or am I okay?
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ArmyVet07

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Re: 3.91 LSAC GPA/169 LSAT...But My GPA...is it Tarnished? Help
I wouldn't worry about one P/F at all, but you might want to write an addendum about the dropped courses.
- nyyankees

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dont call me from hys
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thisisit

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Confused? What do you mean? Am I okay with my transcript situation? I don't know folks I keep getting conflicting information about writing an addendum. One of my drops was due to it being my freshmen year and just getting a hold of the school rigors. The other was part of that shitty semester I had senior year.nyyankees wrote:dont call me from hys
I don't know...do I really need to even acknowledge my blemishes if at the end of the day LSAC says I have a 3.91 and scored a 169?
I don't know...I need more opinions.
- dlac

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The poster above implies that you're a lock for HYS, which I pretty much agree with. Whatever blemishes you had can easily be incorporated into your PS/DS or if you need to, a separate addendum. If you're this worried about it I would recommend that you just get on with writing one. It should give you at least some peace of mind while you're waiting for your inevitable HYS acceptance letters!
- BigA

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Yeah, you'll definitely be wearing one of these:
= Harvard or Yale
= Harvard or Yale- JustDude

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Relax dude. Numbers matter. Only numbers. Your GPA is solid. LSAT is good enough. Lock for CCN and down, 33% at HYS.
- legalease9

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Yeah you're fine. But definitely write an addendum explaining your senior year drop.
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mikeh915

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I dropped 3 classes, 1 in my freshman, one in my sophomore, and 1 in my junior year. I didn't write an addendum and I'm fairly certain it didn't affect my cycle at all.
- Veyron

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If you write an addendum this should only have a small impact, certinaly not enough to keep you out of the best schools in America.
Harvard does hate P/F tho.
Harvard does hate P/F tho.
- jpSartre

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Is OP the Barack Obama of our generation? I advise Harvard, prof at Chicago, senate, etc.
- Gamecubesupreme

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Lock at everywhere other than Yale.
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14yearplan

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For me, when I read your post, I was confused as to what you were asking. Seems like you are stretching trying to find a "blemish" when none exists.
Do not do the same mistake by bringing all these non-issues up in any way on your applications. You may just confuse the ad comms, as well.
Leave it alone, you are in fantastic shape. . . as long as you don't give them reasons not to accept you.
Do not do the same mistake by bringing all these non-issues up in any way on your applications. You may just confuse the ad comms, as well.
Leave it alone, you are in fantastic shape. . . as long as you don't give them reasons not to accept you.
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digitalcntrl

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I agree. A drop is not really blemish on your record as far as adcoms ago. I seriously doubt adcoms actually look at what specific courses you took or whether you withdrew from any.14yearplan wrote:For me, when I read your post, I was confused as to what you were asking. Seems like you are stretching trying to find a "blemish" when none exists.
Do not do the same mistake by bringing all these non-issues up in any way on your applications. You may just confuse the ad comms, as well.
Leave it alone, you are in fantastic shape. . . as long as you don't give them reasons not to accept you.
- Nicholasnickynic

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I had a drop and two withdraws. No one cared. I didn't explain them specifically, but they were part of my "before I got my act together grades."14yearplan wrote:For me, when I read your post, I was confused as to what you were asking. Seems like you are stretching trying to find a "blemish" when none exists.
Do not do the same mistake by bringing all these non-issues up in any way on your applications. You may just confuse the ad comms, as well.
Leave it alone, you are in fantastic shape. . . as long as you don't give them reasons not to accept you.
I also had a few disciplinary troubles. Law Schools DO NOT care about little things like that. I wouldn't even mention them, as that would only bring light to them. Honestly, with URM status, great numbers and a good PS, why on earth would they reject because you dropped two classes?
- Veyron

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I also had a few disciplinary troubles. Law Schools DO NOT care about little things like that. I wouldn't even mention them, as that would only bring light to them. Honestly, with URM status, great numbers and a good PS, why on earth would they reject because you dropped two classes?[/quote]
You sound stupid. Always, always, always disclose. I did, it hurt me not at all but the opposite cab bring major trouble.
I also had a few disciplinary troubles. Law Schools DO NOT care about little things like that. I wouldn't even mention them, as that would only bring light to them. Honestly, with URM status, great numbers and a good PS, why on earth would they reject because you dropped two classes?[/quote]
You sound stupid. Always, always, always disclose. I did, it hurt me not at all but the opposite cab bring major trouble.
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digitalcntrl

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Huh??? Drops/Withdraws are present in your transcript. There is no issue of disclosure. The only thing an addendum would do is draw a big red circle around the issue.Veyron wrote:
You sound stupid. Always, always, always disclose. I did, it hurt me not at all but the opposite cab bring major trouble.
- tikiman6

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URM = You're in either way enjoy.
- Veyron

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Disciplinary troubles brosuph.digitalcntrl wrote:Huh??? Drops/Withdraws are present in your transcript. There is no issue of disclosure. The only thing an addendum would do is draw a big red circle around the issue.Veyron wrote:
You sound stupid. Always, always, always disclose. I did, it hurt me not at all but the opposite cab bring major trouble.
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nuss3

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OP, keep in mind that they're concerned with your GPA only insofar as yours won't hurt their statistics. and obviously a 3.91 LSDAS--with drops or without--isn't an outlier on the naughty side of the spectrum. i know somebody who got into harvard with almost identical stats (he, too, is urm). i'll wager $50 you get a full ride offer from at least one T6 school.
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- rayiner

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Have fun at Harvard!
- Pleasye

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your GPA is not tarnished.