Just Withdrew From Three Schools - I declare Withdraw Day Forum

[Hattori Hanzo]

Thanks for the help. Withdrawing from a few schools today.

[lawman2010]

UC Hastings

Nice. I need this one. Sitting on waitlist right now...

[lawman2010]

Anyone else want to keep the momentum going? We're opening up spots today to help our fellow TLSers who are either on waitlists or are in review...

[Tangerine Gleam]

Great thread.

UPenn + GULC.

[Mattisgo]

I did DePaul, Loyola Chi and San Diego. Good luck to everyone!

[neskerdoo]

Great thread.

UPenn + GULC.

no, awful thread.

No one except people posting where they withdrew gives a crap about who withdrew from where. You are a tiny, dreadful segment of the population.

[crm]

Withdrew from Villanova, good luck

[cartercl]

Great thread.

UPenn + GULC.

no, awful thread.

No one except people posting where they withdrew gives a crap about who withdrew from where. You are a tiny, dreadful segment of the population.

Edit: Unfortunately, you (and others like you) represent a much larger portion of the population...

[09042014]

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot.

HTH

[cartercl]

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot.

HTH

Maybe not. But it certainly allows those borderline candidates to be viewed more favorably in the eyes of adcomms considering the fact that one more 3.5/168 candidate has been removed from an applicant pool full of splitters at a T2 or T3.

[neskerdoo]

Great thread.

UPenn + GULC.

no, awful thread.

No one except people posting where they withdrew gives a crap about who withdrew from where. You are a tiny, dreadful segment of the population.

Edit: Unfortunately, you (and others like you) represent a much larger portion of the population...

yes, it's a real shame, I know

[set88]

Great thread.

UPenn + GULC.

no, awful thread.

No one except people posting where they withdrew gives a crap about who withdrew from where. You are a tiny, dreadful segment of the population.

We may not care about where individual people withdrew from but I think the overall idea is solid. You can't deny that if everyone right now withdrew from the schools they've already decided they don't really want to go to, the admissions process might move faster for the people still waiting. It certainly is not going to hurt. So why not encourage people to do it? This is a great thread.

[mailmanstalker]

great thread +1

[Snoopy1216]

Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...

[09042014]

Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...

Actually letting in a new student after others withdraw is a recipe for over admitting. Adcoms know roughly how many people will actually matriculate, so they over admit.

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot because adcoms already planned that you would. Not you specifically, but that 3/4 of admits would.

[Snoopy1216]

Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...

Actually letting in a new student after others withdraw is a recipe for over admitting. Adcoms know roughly how many people will actually matriculate, so they over admit.

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot because adcoms already planned that you would. Not you specifically, but that 3/4 of admits would.

I agree that adcomms plan for some of their applicants to be swayed, but not all and certainly not most. While they can guarantee that the higher applicants are out, the medians ones will be a gamble. And those are the ones schools need to at least keep the same rankings. Since there is no real guarantee for who is in and who is out for those, adcomms can't really look at the lower numbers (people waiting for spots) until they can assure their rankings/medians will be taken care of...

[09042014]

Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...

Actually letting in a new student after others withdraw is a recipe for over admitting. Adcoms know roughly how many people will actually matriculate, so they over admit.

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot because adcoms already planned that you would. Not you specifically, but that 3/4 of admits would.

I agree that adcomms plan for some of their applicants to be swayed, but not all and certainly not most. While they can guarantee that the higher applicants are out, the medians ones will be a gamble. And those are the ones schools need to at least keep the same rankings. Since there is no real guarantee for who is in and who is out for those, adcomms can't really look at the lower numbers (people waiting for spots) until they can assure their rankings/medians will be taken care of...

Most schools have a yield rate of under 50%. More like 25-35%. Last year Michigan admitted almost 1200 applicants. Only 370 end up there.

They are not going to admit someone else because you withdraw. It's a probability game.

[amputatedbrain]

Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...

Actually letting in a new student after others withdraw is a recipe for over admitting. Adcoms know roughly how many people will actually matriculate, so they over admit.

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot because adcoms already planned that you would. Not you specifically, but that 3/4 of admits would.

I'd guess no single withdrawal opens up spots, only if they get more withdrawals than they planned for, in which case they would go to the waitlist. And even if a school did end up with a few empty seats, would they admit people with sub-par numbers to fill them? I know they want every seat filled with a paying customer and all, but too much of that probably hurts their ranking?

[09042014]

Definitely a great thread. Ppl sitting on acceptances really are holding spots because adcomms don't want to over-admit and they want to see what their class is going to look like. If they know some people are out, they can move onto other candidates.

Sometimes ppl's logic on this site baffles me...

Actually letting in a new student after others withdraw is a recipe for over admitting. Adcoms know roughly how many people will actually matriculate, so they over admit.

Withdrawing doesn't open a spot because adcoms already planned that you would. Not you specifically, but that 3/4 of admits would.

I'd guess no single withdrawal opens up spots, only if they get more withdrawals than they planned for, in which case they would go to the waitlist. And even if a school did end up with a few empty seats, would they admit people with sub-par numbers to fill them? I know they want every seat filled with a paying customer and all, but too much of that probably hurts their ranking?

Yes they go to the waitlist, but they won't know a final count until deposits are due. Which is why withdrawing early doesn't help.

A school would take more sub-par splitters to fill their class because they won't hurt their medians.

[BaiAilian2013]

Bumping this thread - let's withdraw some more applications!

I just withdrew from GULC, UVA, BU, and Penn.

[AEF2813]

withdrawn from:
gulc
columbia
upenn
duke

[cartercl]

Withdrew from the University of Tennessee

[DukeHopeful]

First, thanks to everyone withdrawing, whether it's a plus for us sitting on some WLs or not. It's psychologically helpful to me, at least.

A quick thought though about it helping others out. Maybe it doesn't open up spots to those on the WL, but those who are withdrawing and putting money back on the table certainly help out applicants who may already be admitted and are hoping for a little more $$ by freeing up scholly funds.

[lawman2010]

First, thanks to everyone withdrawing, whether it's a plus for us sitting on some WLs or not. It's psychologically helpful to me, at least.

A quick thought though about it helping others out. Maybe it doesn't open up spots to those on the WL, but those who are withdrawing and putting money back on the table certainly help out applicants who may already be admitted and are hoping for a little more $$ by freeing up scholly funds.

^^^^^^ Agreed.

[SandyC877]

withdrew: UT, Tennessee, Vandy, Hastings, USC, Florida, Loyola LA, Pepperdine.

Good luck yall.