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High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by shoop » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:06 pm

My high school was stingy and full of stupid people, so they dropped the AP program my senior year and replaced it with this "college in schools" program that gave both high school and (crappy state school) college credits for the same classes. The "college" classes were taken on the high school campus and were taught by high school teachers. I have a transcript from Crappy State School that looks like I was a regular student there.

My undergrad institution (top 20) did not even consider these credits for transfer. I have a great GPA from my UG (>3.9), but this stupid Crappy State School transcript is making me sick. I called LSAC and they said OH YES, that transcript will be figured into my LSAC cumulative GPA. Using the GPA calculator at lawschoolpredictor.com, my cumulative GPA falls to 3.81 when I figure in the "college" grades from high school. The lady on the phone from LSAC said my transcript report will show both my cumulative GPA and my GPA *just* from my degree institution.

So, should I forget about getting into T14? Kill myself? Write an addendum explaining that the Crappy State School credits were concurrent with high school enrollment and that I only took them because they were the most challenging classes available at Bumfuck High? I really hope that a decision I made a decade ago in HIGH SCHOOL isn't going to screw me over for law school after I busted my butt in UG to come out with the >3.9.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by UF Gators » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:10 pm

With a 3.81 gpa it's going to be next to impossible to get into a T14, therefore you should killself.

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Post by Ethan Edwards » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:10 pm

I would talk to some one higher.

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Post by reasonabledoubt » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:10 pm

Wow - another 1st post flame.

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Post by shoop » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:13 pm

reasonabledoubt wrote:Wow - another 1st post flame.
Not a flame. I've lurked for a while but didn't register until I had a question for which I thought these boards might produce a useful answer. Would my question be taken more seriously if I'd made 50 useless, sarcastic posts on random threads prior to asking this?

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by manbearwig » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:13 pm

3.9, even? Forget it. If you're not >4.0, maybe you can get T1.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by ricking1288 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:15 pm

stop freaking out...a 3.81 is still good lol.....just make sure your LSAT score is just as high if your shooting for T14....or even HYS....i know a guy that had a 3.2 Lsac gpa and scored a 176 on his Lsats and got into a T14....chilllllll
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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by ricking1288 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:17 pm

if your still anal about the difference between 3.9 and a 3.81.....what going to happen to u when u go to law school?

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by AtticusFinch » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:18 pm

I took college courses in high school also, but since my UG school did not use them they where not calculated into my LSAC GPA. I wish they had been. I'm not sure you got the correct advice.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by shoop » Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:21 pm

ricking1288 wrote:if your still anal about the difference between 3.9 and a 3.81.....what going to happen to u when u go to law school?
I'm going to be an asshole gunner-ette who's anal about studying and hated by all my classmates because I outperform them, obviously. And it's not the difference between 3.9 and 3.81, it's a >0.1 difference between 3.81 and a UG GPA much higher than 3.9 that I don't want to disclose lest I be identified by adcomm lurkers.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by ricking1288 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:00 pm

wow ur kinda a dick......but anyways anything above a 3.8 is good enough for T14 but again, a good portion of ur acceptance to T14 does depend on ur lsat score.....meaning that it doesnt really matter that u have even a 4.0, for example, and get a 154 on ur lsats cuz simply put ur not going to get in. So if u already have taken the lsats then and u did good....relax...but if u havent taken them, study hard, do well, then relax.

p.s. u deff need to get laid (just to throw that out there)

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Post by D. H2Oman » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:01 pm

Pussy Galore wrote:With a 3.81 gpa it's going to be next to impossible to get into a T14, therefore you should killself.

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shoop wrote:
reasonabledoubt wrote:Wow - another 1st post flame.
Not a flame. I've lurked for a while but didn't register until I had a question for which I thought these boards might produce a useful answer. Would my question be taken more seriously if I'd made 50 useless, sarcastic posts on random threads prior to asking this?
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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by shoop » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:05 pm

reasonabledoubt wrote:
shoop wrote:
reasonabledoubt wrote:Wow - another 1st post flame.
Not a flame. I've lurked for a while but didn't register until I had a question for which I thought these boards might produce a useful answer. Would my question be taken more seriously if I'd made 50 useless, sarcastic posts on random threads prior to asking this?
Yes.
I'll get right on that.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by traehekat » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:15 pm

Maybe if you did some actual research you would discover that the median GPA for most of the T14 hovers around a 3.72.

You are fine, don't worry. No one wants to listen to someone bitch about how their 3.9 GPA was knocked down to a 3.7x because of LSAC's transcript evaluation process.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by Ethan Edwards » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:22 pm

traehekat wrote:Maybe if you did some actual research you would discover that the median GPA for most of the T14 hovers around a 3.72.

You are fine, don't worry. No one wants to listen to someone bitch about how their 3.9 GPA was knocked down to a 3.7x because of LSAC's transcript evaluation process.
Look, because some ppl suck doesn't mean he does not have a right to complain.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

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traehekat wrote:Maybe if you did some actual research you would discover that the median GPA for most of the T14 hovers around a 3.72.

You are fine, don't worry. No one wants to listen to someone bitch about how their 3.9 GPA was knocked down to a 3.7x because of LSAC's transcript evaluation process.
+1 ... clearly, the OP will not be able to cut the most basic research required by law school! OP, the only 3 schools who really seem to give a damn about near-4.0 GPA's are HYS. If your LSAT score ends up exceeding a 172/173, you have legitimate grounds to write an addendum.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by traehekat » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:37 pm

Ethan Edwards wrote:
traehekat wrote:Maybe if you did some actual research you would discover that the median GPA for most of the T14 hovers around a 3.72.

You are fine, don't worry. No one wants to listen to someone bitch about how their 3.9 GPA was knocked down to a 3.7x because of LSAC's transcript evaluation process.
Look, because some ppl suck doesn't mean he does not have a right to complain.
Never said he/she doesn't have a right to complain. I'm just saying he/she shouldn't be surprised at the responses.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by Ethan Edwards » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:41 pm

traehekat wrote:
Ethan Edwards wrote:
traehekat wrote:Maybe if you did some actual research you would discover that the median GPA for most of the T14 hovers around a 3.72.

You are fine, don't worry. No one wants to listen to someone bitch about how their 3.9 GPA was knocked down to a 3.7x because of LSAC's transcript evaluation process.
Look, because some ppl suck doesn't mean he does not have a right to complain.
Never said he/she doesn't have a right to complain. I'm just saying he/she shouldn't be surprised at the responses.
If your gpa dropped .9+ points how would you feel?

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by Panther7 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:44 pm

Ethan Edwards wrote:
traehekat wrote:
Ethan Edwards wrote:
traehekat wrote:Maybe if you did some actual research you would discover that the median GPA for most of the T14 hovers around a 3.72.

You are fine, don't worry. No one wants to listen to someone bitch about how their 3.9 GPA was knocked down to a 3.7x because of LSAC's transcript evaluation process.
Look, because some ppl suck doesn't mean he does not have a right to complain.
Never said he/she doesn't have a right to complain. I'm just saying he/she shouldn't be surprised at the responses.
If your gpa dropped .9+ points how would you feel?
i was estatic.

however I'm not sure how much it mattered for me.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by shoop » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:13 pm

traehekat wrote:Maybe if you did some actual research you would discover that the median GPA for most of the T14 hovers around a 3.72.

You are fine, don't worry. No one wants to listen to someone bitch about how their 3.9 GPA was knocked down to a 3.7x because of LSAC's transcript evaluation process.
I don't want to listen to people who shouldn't even be considering law school bitch about their 2.4 GPAs and 142 LSATs, but there's a whole lot of that on TLS and I'm not calling it out. I don't think a question about LSAC knocking someone's GPA down is less legit just because the GPA in question was high to start with.

Everyone else:

I'm female.

I am indeed targeting HYS. This is not an insignificant GPA reduction for those schools.

I know what the median for the average T14 is, and I know that the hit I'm going to take from LSAC might drag me from top quartile to median-ish for the best schools of the T14. Show me someone who wouldn't be bummed that their admission to their top choice schools is less certain because they happened to get a B in a "college" class in high school.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by Ethan Edwards » Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:15 pm

Like I said earlier, I would be pissed as hell. The only thing you can do is pester the hell out of LSAC, because it is a load of crap.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by manbearwig » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:22 pm

shoop wrote:
traehekat wrote:Maybe if you did some actual research you would discover that the median GPA for most of the T14 hovers around a 3.72.

You are fine, don't worry. No one wants to listen to someone bitch about how their 3.9 GPA was knocked down to a 3.7x because of LSAC's transcript evaluation process.
I don't want to listen to people who shouldn't even be considering law school bitch about their 2.4 GPAs and 142 LSATs, but there's a whole lot of that on TLS and I'm not calling it out. I don't think a question about LSAC knocking someone's GPA down is less legit just because the GPA in question was high to start with.

Everyone else:

I'm female.

I am indeed targeting HYS. This is not an insignificant GPA reduction for those schools.

I know what the median for the average T14 is, and I know that the hit I'm going to take from LSAC might drag me from top quartile to median-ish for the best schools of the T14. Show me someone who wouldn't be bummed that their admission to their top choice schools is less certain because they happened to get a B in a "college" class in high school.
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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by traehekat » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:58 pm

shoop wrote:
traehekat wrote:Maybe if you did some actual research you would discover that the median GPA for most of the T14 hovers around a 3.72.

You are fine, don't worry. No one wants to listen to someone bitch about how their 3.9 GPA was knocked down to a 3.7x because of LSAC's transcript evaluation process.
I don't want to listen to people who shouldn't even be considering law school bitch about their 2.4 GPAs and 142 LSATs, but there's a whole lot of that on TLS and I'm not calling it out. I don't think a question about LSAC knocking someone's GPA down is less legit just because the GPA in question was high to start with.

Everyone else:

I'm female.

I am indeed targeting HYS. This is not an insignificant GPA reduction for those schools.

I know what the median for the average T14 is, and I know that the hit I'm going to take from LSAC might drag me from top quartile to median-ish for the best schools of the T14. Show me someone who wouldn't be bummed that their admission to their top choice schools is less certain because they happened to get a B in a "college" class in high school.
Point taken, but if you would have said HYS instead of T14 in your original post, I don't think you would have received so many hostile responses.

To actually answer your question, since it isn't exactly nonsense anymore, I think you could consider an addendum when the time comes, but it may be unnecessary. HYS aren't exactly schools who are going to look at your numbers and just admit you - they will take a close look at your application and I am sure they will notice your stellar grades have come more recently, and your slightly less stellar grades were in high school and are (almost) irrelevant (even though they have been calculated into your GPA).

The best advice I can give you is only write an addendum if you think you have something more to add other than what can already be inferred from looking at your transcript. Were you sick? Death in family? Something else? If not, I wouldn't really bother. Sorry to bring this up again, but even HYS don't want to read an addendum explaining how one semester someone got four A's and one B. They have a lot of applications to go through, and if you take up their time with an unnecessary addendum, it could probably only hurt you.

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Re: High School Concurrent Enrollment Transcript

Post by im_blue » Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:32 pm

So your high school's "full of stupid people," yet you couldn't get A's in "college classes" taught by high school teachers? And you think you're HYS material? :roll:

Even with a 3.81, you're only below median at HYS, UVA, Berkeley, and Penn.
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