The deal with merit fee waivers Forum

[PunjabiLower]

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[Snoopy1216]

How do merit fee waivers work? Do they send them out to applicants with numbers greater than the medians, 75th percentiles?

Let's just say I have a 3.84 LSDAS and I want fee waivers from George Mason, William and Mary, and Washington in St. Louis. I'm above their GPA 75th percentiles...but what kind of LSAT would I need? I'm guessing around 163-166? Have you ever seen a school send a fee waiver to an applicant with GPA above 75th and a LSAT below 25th?

From what I have experienced, it is really arbitrary. Just because you are in a school's median (or even way above it) that does not mean you will get a fee waiver. I am not sure what kind of information schools have access to on LSAC, but I quickly learned that fee waivers are subjective.

[k77]

George Mason automatically waives the app fee if you apply online I believe.

[Lonagan]

According to your profile you have 172 / 3.8. If those are your numbers you should be getting merit waivers wherever you want them.

I am surprised you have not gotten WUSTL and WM via CRS with those numbers.

[vanwinkle]

It varies widely from school to school. UVA seems to hand them out like candy in the hopes of boosting their applicant numbers, knowing full well they'll reject most of the people who use them.

[PunjabiLower]

can you see a 3.8-3.85, (below 163 LSAT) getting CRS(unsolicited) fee waivers from william mary and WASHUSTL?

[Lonagan]

I am curious why you just deleted your LSAT score from your profile.

At any rate, both of those schools appear to have done their Post-December CRS sweep. At least, I got CRS waivers (as well as earlier solicited ones) from both schools after the December test.

Also, why not just solicit them? Any special reason you want unsolicited waivers?

[ddav87]

W&M yes i received one and am well below both medians.

[PunjabiLower]

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[yeff]

Wait - you're guessing your LSAT score via what fee waivers you are receiving, instead of...checking your LSAT score?



I'm not suggesting you need to reveal anything you don't want to reveal, but my imagination is really being strained here.

[PunjabiLower]

I just think it will be more interesting to never check my LSAT. When my acceptances/rejections roll in, it'll just be interesting. I don't want to expect acceptances/rejections based on LSP. I'd rather they come randomly in my mailbox. Makes it exciting. I also am not checking my score for a personal reason I don't wish to disclose.

I'm hoping for the 163-166 range. If I got emails/fee waivers from those schools, you think I hit that range?

[Lonagan]

And part of your guessing process was to type '172' into your profile, and then erase it when someone mentioned it? That's a nifty guessing process. It begs credulity to believe that you care enough about your LSAT score to invest this much effort in figuring it out, but care so little about applying to law school that you would do so without actually knowing your score.

[PunjabiLower]

Oh yeah sorry one of my cousins shares the same profile so he must have put his numbers on here.

[OneSixtySix]

Oh yeah sorry one of my cousins shares the same profile so he must have put his numbers on here.

Classic internet excuse.

[Lonagan]

That was a predictable direction for this thread to go in.

[calicocat]

That was a predictable direction for this thread to go in.

Everything is predictable on TLS

[PunjabiLower]

Oh yeah sorry one of my cousins shares the same profile so he must have put his numbers on here.

Classic internet excuse.

Because something may have occurred or may even have been a trend in the past, does not make it definitely true in the future?

Isn't that an LSAT reasoning flaw?

[Lonagan]

Isn't attempting to figure out your LSAT score by looking at which fee waivers you received instead of just looking at the score e-mail or LSAC page an LSAT reasoning flaw?

[PunjabiLower]

Isn't attempting to figure out your LSAT score by looking at which fee waivers you received instead of just looking at the score e-mail or LSAC page an LSAT reasoning flaw?

what kind of reasoning flaw is it?

[Lonagan]

Isn't attempting to figure out your LSAT score by looking at which fee waivers you received instead of just looking at the score e-mail or LSAC page an LSAT reasoning flaw?

what kind of reasoning flaw is it?

I know you put a question mark after that, but is that really a question?

[OneSixtySix]

Oh yeah sorry one of my cousins shares the same profile so he must have put his numbers on here.

Classic internet excuse.

Because something may have occurred or may even have been a trend in the past, does not make it definitely true in the future?

Isn't that an LSAT reasoning flaw?

Let me clarify.

Its 99.9% likely your excuse is completely made up. Its 2010, who would "use" somebody else's personal log in info, when its just as easy to register his own name? If your "cousin" just wanted to rummage through the boards, he could have. However this cousin deemed it necessary to enter specific and personal information on a profile function I dont even know how to access, and I've been registered for about six months.


LSAT logic-proofed.

[PunjabiLower]

Oh yeah sorry one of my cousins shares the same profile so he must have put his numbers on here.

Classic internet excuse.

Because something may have occurred or may even have been a trend in the past, does not make it definitely true in the future?

Isn't that an LSAT reasoning flaw?

Let me clarify.

Its 99.9% likely your excuse is completely made up. Its 2010, who would "use" somebody else's personal log in info, when its just as easy to register his own name? If your "cousin" just wanted to rummage through the boards, he could have. However this cousin deemed it necessary to enter specific and personal information on a profile function I dont even know how to access, and I've been registered for about six months.


LSAT logic-proofed.

Is it possible he didn't want to just "rummage" through boards and that he may want to ask questions of his own? Is it also possible he was too lazy to create his own profile by registering it through his own email address?

I guess we all find fails in others.

[gabewatch]

wouldnt the application process just be easier if you knew your lsat score because that is the most important factor? also i got fee waivers from a wide range of schools, and its obvious that some of these schools want to raise their number of applicants, while others have accepted me with money.

i just cant imagine going through a grueling exam that will determine my future, and not checking my score

[PunjabiLower]

wouldnt the application process just be easier if you knew your lsat score because that is the most important factor? also i got fee waivers from a wide range of schools, and its obvious that some of these schools want to raise their number of applicants, while others have accepted me with money.

i just cant imagine going through a grueling exam that will determine my future, and not checking my score

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[Marisa5252]

wouldnt the application process just be easier if you knew your lsat score because that is the most important factor? also i got fee waivers from a wide range of schools, and its obvious that some of these schools want to raise their number of applicants, while others have accepted me with money.

i just cant imagine going through a grueling exam that will determine my future, and not checking my score

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