better to be a splitter, or at median?

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better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by nj05nets » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:21 pm

i know every school is different, but generally speaking are your chances for admission better if you have either a gpa or lsat at or around the 75th percentile and the other at/around the 25th percentile as opposed to being at the median for both?

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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by superserial » Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:23 pm

I'd say, generally, LSAT 75th + GPA 25th > Median Both > GPA 75th; LSAT 25th. There are exceptions (Boalt).

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Post by Hattori Hanzo » Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:42 am

superserial wrote:I'd say, generally, LSAT 75th + GPA 25th > Median Both > GPA 75th; LSAT 25th. There are exceptions (Boalt).
+1 and add UCLA to the exceptions.

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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by Crocodile Duck » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:04 am

Does Boalt care a lot about GPA?

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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by John_rizzy_rawls » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:11 am

Crocodile Duck wrote:Does Boalt care a lot about GPA?
No one knows what Boalt actually cares about if you look at their admissions patterns.

But yes, Boalt and Yale are the two most GPA heavy schools in the T14.

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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by Crocodile Duck » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:15 am

John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Crocodile Duck wrote:Does Boalt care a lot about GPA?
No one knows what Boalt actually cares about if you look at their admissions patterns.

But yes, Boalt and Yale are the two most GPA heavy schools in the T14.
good to know, I have a 3.67

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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by John_rizzy_rawls » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:18 am

Crocodile Duck wrote:
John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Crocodile Duck wrote:Does Boalt care a lot about GPA?
No one knows what Boalt actually cares about if you look at their admissions patterns.

But yes, Boalt and Yale are the two most GPA heavy schools in the T14.
good to know, I have a 3.67
Unless you're a URM, that locks you out of HYS and gives you a pretty slight chance at Berk depending on your LSAT.

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Post by suralin » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:18 am

John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Crocodile Duck wrote:Does Boalt care a lot about GPA?
No one knows what Boalt actually cares about if you look at their admissions patterns.

But yes, Boalt and Yale are the two most GPA heavy schools in the T14.
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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by Crocodile Duck » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:19 am

John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Crocodile Duck wrote:
John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Crocodile Duck wrote:Does Boalt care a lot about GPA?
No one knows what Boalt actually cares about if you look at their admissions patterns.

But yes, Boalt and Yale are the two most GPA heavy schools in the T14.
good to know, I have a 3.67
Unless you're a URM, that locks you out of HYS and gives you a pretty slight chance at Berk depending on your LSAT.
I want to go to McGeorge. My LSAT is 165.

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Post by Tiago Splitter » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:50 am

superserial wrote:I'd say, generally, LSAT 75th + GPA 25th > Median Both > GPA 75th; LSAT 25th. There are exceptions (Boalt).
I wouldn't agree with this, especially for the many T-14 schools which have a 75th and a median LSAT one point apart.

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Post by buddyt » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:38 pm

Crocodile Duck wrote:I want to go to McGeorge. My LSAT is 165.
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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by clerker » Tue Jan 29, 2013 3:57 pm

Depends on your tolerance for volatility. Being at the medians allows you to better predict your admissions cycle, and will get you into a large number of top schools in your numbers range. Being a splitter will get you into a ton of lower ranked schools and have wildly differing admissions results at the higher end. Some splitters will be fortunate and get into splitter friendly schools, but many will not. And those who get in will likely have to play the waitlist game, and hope they get in at the last minute, instead of having the security of knowing where they'll be early on.

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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by LexLeon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:12 am

Crocodile Duck wrote:Does Boalt care a lot about GPA?
I might have read that Boalt, more than any other school, places the relatively greatest amount of emphasis on GPA.

But, even if I did read that, it might have been on TLS, and simply reading something on TLS does little to establish its veracity.

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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by LexLeon » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:13 am

Tiago Splitter wrote:
superserial wrote:I'd say, generally, LSAT 75th + GPA 25th > Median Both > GPA 75th; LSAT 25th. There are exceptions (Boalt).
I wouldn't agree with this, especially for the many T-14 schools which have a 75th and a median LSAT one point apart.
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Post by donmincho » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:02 am

Boalt places higher GPA emphasis relative to LSAT than SLS? I don't think so. Splitters do much better at Boalt. 178/3.75 is autoadmit at Boalt, <10% at SLS.

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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by megagnarley » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:52 am

donmincho wrote:Boalt places higher GPA emphasis relative to LSAT than SLS? I don't think so. Splitters do much better at Boalt. 178/3.75 is autoadmit at Boalt, <10% at SLS.
The fact that a school has higher selectivity overall is irrelevant in regards to the proportional importance of each part of a contingent whole.

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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by donmincho » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:17 pm

megagnarley wrote:
donmincho wrote:Boalt places higher GPA emphasis relative to LSAT than SLS? I don't think so. Splitters do much better at Boalt. 178/3.75 is autoadmit at Boalt, <10% at SLS.
The fact that a school has higher selectivity overall is irrelevant in regards to the proportional importance of each part of a contingent whole.
Boalt has second lowest acceptance rate in the t14 after YLS. Now, SLS is still more selective, presumably due to self selective app pool, but the statistic cited above doesn't necessarily only show more selectivity, could very well indicate an aversion toward splitters. Thanks for the colorful prose though.

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Re: better to be a splitter, or at median?

Post by donmincho » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:19 pm

John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Crocodile Duck wrote:
John_rizzy_rawls wrote:
Crocodile Duck wrote:Does Boalt care a lot about GPA?
No one knows what Boalt actually cares about if you look at their admissions patterns.

But yes, Boalt and Yale are the two most GPA heavy schools in the T14.
good to know, I have a 3.67
Unless you're a URM, that locks you out of HYS and gives you a pretty slight chance at Berk depending on your LSAT.
3.67 is a likely admit at HLS with 179-180.

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