Thank you so much for that.Instrumental wrote:Hay guyz, new us news rankings are hereRigo wrote:Who's going to be the fourth person to share that link, I wonder.
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Instrumental's post was too self aware. I'll go with this one as credited:Rigo wrote:Who's going to be the fourth person to share that link, I wonder.
magnum_law wrote:Official release; https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-sc ... w-rankings
tldr; Rpupkin was trolling
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And 75% of grads with jobs get biglaw... It helps pay down those insane COA costs... If you're into that liferpupkin wrote:To be fair, Columbia is located in an area with one of the nation's lowest COL, which helps offset the high tuition.Tiago Splitter wrote:lol Columbia tuition
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rpupkin wrote:To be fair, Columbia is located in an area with one of the nation's lowest COL, which helps offset the high tuition.Tiago Splitter wrote:lol Columbia tuition
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The asst Dean of admissions at PSU Dickinson is a huge extrovert. Maybe that shows itself in the number of emails she sends out? Lolood's_brother wrote:Ferrisjso wrote:Yeah this is really bizzare, most of the schools I'm looking at(state schools, TT's and TTT's) all have that National label. Yeah I'm curious about this.bmathers wrote:Click on a school and read all of the info. It's right below public/private and year foundedFerrisjso wrote:? I have no idea what you're talking about.bmathers wrote:Intresting. hen you click on schools and look at the info on the school, what do they mean by the "national" or "regional" designation?Apollo835 wrote:https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-sc ... w-rankings
For example, Penn State Dickinson Law has a "national" designation. UTK and Georgia State, on the other hand, have a "regional" designation. They all have around the same ranking (GSU and Dickinson are tied for the exact same ranking). It's not like one is viewed as a LS that places nationally, and the other as one that places regionally. I don't get it?
Could it be that schools self-select? I don't think GSU spams across the US. Penn State though, ugh. Or maybe it's the students they attract.
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I paid like a third of that and I'm in a literal boatload of debt. LITERAL BUTTLOAD.Moneytrees wrote:The in-state tuition at UT is pretty sweet.SweetTort wrote:cron1834 wrote:Tiago Splitter wrote:lol Columbia tuition
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Also glad to see rpumpkin has finally been exposed as a FRAUD and a SHAM. Looks like the on topics will finally be free of his tyranny, mods willing.
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It will be a shame if the mods ban me from the on-topics. My inside contacts at Vault are much more reliable, as you know. It seems wrong to deprive TLS'ers of my sneak peaks at the Vault rankings just because the USNWR/Spivey cabal pulled one over on me this time.BigZuck wrote:Also glad to see rpumpkin has finally been exposed as a FRAUD and a SHAM. Looks like the on topics will finally be free of his tyranny, mods willing.
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Please tell me that the firm i'm going to be a SA at has moved up from V-20 to V-10!rpupkin wrote:It will be a shame if the mods ban me from the on-topics. My inside contacts at Vault are much more reliable, as you know. It seems wrong to deprive TLS'ers of my sneak peaks at the Vault rankings just because the USNWR/Spivey cabal pulled one over on me this time.BigZuck wrote:Also glad to see rpumpkin has finally been exposed as a FRAUD and a SHAM. Looks like the on topics will finally be free of his tyranny, mods willing.
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Does anyone know where I could find the raw score for schools for prior rankings?
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Out of curiosity why did you trust Boalt and GULC adcoms seeing as they had a clear incentive to lie to you?rpupkin wrote:It will be a shame if the mods ban me from the on-topics. My inside contacts at Vault are much more reliable, as you know. It seems wrong to deprive TLS'ers of my sneak peaks at the Vault rankings just because the USNWR/Spivey cabal pulled one over on me this time.BigZuck wrote:Also glad to see rpumpkin has finally been exposed as a FRAUD and a SHAM. Looks like the on topics will finally be free of his tyranny, mods willing.
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A. Nony Mouse wrote:oh my god.
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Official 2018 Best Law Schools ranking from USNWR released
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-sc ... aw-schools
Now that it's offical, maybe we can have a more serious discussion for what this means for new applicants? I copy-pasted the top 25 schools below.
Top 25:
#1
Yale University
New Haven, CT
$59,865 per year (full-time) 632
#2
Stanford University
Stanford, CA
$58,236 per year (full-time) 579
#3
Harvard University
Cambridge, MA
$60,638 per year (full-time) 1,771
#4
University of Chicago
Chicago, IL
$59,541 per year (full-time) 603
#5
Columbia University
New York, NY
$65,260 per year (full-time) 1,234
#6
New York University
New York, NY
$61,622 per year (full-time) 1,369
#7
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA
$60,988 per year (full-time) 749
#8
Tie
University of Michigan—Ann Arbor
Ann Arbor, MI
$55,012 per year (in-state, full-time); $58,012 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 929
#8
Tie
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA
$56,300 per year (in-state, full-time); $59,300 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 893
#10
Tie
Duke University
Durham, NC
$59,912 per year (full-time) 676
#10
Tie
Northwestern University (Pritzker)
Chicago, IL
$59,850 per year (full-time) 661
#12
University of California—Berkeley
Berkeley, CA
$48,703 per year (in-state, full-time); $52,654 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 925
#13
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY
$61,485 per year (full-time) 605
#14
University of Texas—Austin
Austin, TX
$33,995 per year (in-state, full-time); $50,480 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 898
#15
Tie
Georgetown University
Washington, DC
$57,576 per year (full-time) 1,721
#15
Tie
University of California—Los Angeles
Los Angeles, CA
$45,338 per year (in-state, full-time); $51,832 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 979
#17
Vanderbilt University
Nashville, TN
$53,150 per year (full-time) 572
#18
Washington University in St. Louis
St. Louis, MO
$53,506 per year (full-time) 701
#19
University of Southern California (Gould)
Los Angeles, CA
$60,339 per year (full-time) 649
#20
Tie
University of Iowa
Iowa City, IA
$24,930 per year (in-state, full-time); $43,214 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 420
#20
Tie
University of Notre Dame
Notre Dame, IN
$54,297 per year (full-time) 599
#22
Emory University
Atlanta, GA
$53,350 per year (full-time) 872
#23
Tie
Boston University
Boston, MA
$51,210 per year (full-time) 710
#23
Tie
University of Minnesota
Minneapolis, MN
$43,244 per year (in-state, full-time); $51,590 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 555
#25
Arizona State University (O'Connor)
Phoenix, AZ
$27,226 per year (in-state, full-time); $43,896 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 718
Now that it's offical, maybe we can have a more serious discussion for what this means for new applicants? I copy-pasted the top 25 schools below.
Top 25:
#1
Yale University
New Haven, CT
$59,865 per year (full-time) 632
#2
Stanford University
Stanford, CA
$58,236 per year (full-time) 579
#3
Harvard University
Cambridge, MA
$60,638 per year (full-time) 1,771
#4
University of Chicago
Chicago, IL
$59,541 per year (full-time) 603
#5
Columbia University
New York, NY
$65,260 per year (full-time) 1,234
#6
New York University
New York, NY
$61,622 per year (full-time) 1,369
#7
University of Pennsylvania
Philadelphia, PA
$60,988 per year (full-time) 749
#8
Tie
University of Michigan—Ann Arbor
Ann Arbor, MI
$55,012 per year (in-state, full-time); $58,012 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 929
#8
Tie
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA
$56,300 per year (in-state, full-time); $59,300 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 893
#10
Tie
Duke University
Durham, NC
$59,912 per year (full-time) 676
#10
Tie
Northwestern University (Pritzker)
Chicago, IL
$59,850 per year (full-time) 661
#12
University of California—Berkeley
Berkeley, CA
$48,703 per year (in-state, full-time); $52,654 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 925
#13
Cornell University
Ithaca, NY
$61,485 per year (full-time) 605
#14
University of Texas—Austin
Austin, TX
$33,995 per year (in-state, full-time); $50,480 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 898
#15
Tie
Georgetown University
Washington, DC
$57,576 per year (full-time) 1,721
#15
Tie
University of California—Los Angeles
Los Angeles, CA
$45,338 per year (in-state, full-time); $51,832 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 979
#17
Vanderbilt University
Nashville, TN
$53,150 per year (full-time) 572
#18
Washington University in St. Louis
St. Louis, MO
$53,506 per year (full-time) 701
#19
University of Southern California (Gould)
Los Angeles, CA
$60,339 per year (full-time) 649
#20
Tie
University of Iowa
Iowa City, IA
$24,930 per year (in-state, full-time); $43,214 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 420
#20
Tie
University of Notre Dame
Notre Dame, IN
$54,297 per year (full-time) 599
#22
Emory University
Atlanta, GA
$53,350 per year (full-time) 872
#23
Tie
Boston University
Boston, MA
$51,210 per year (full-time) 710
#23
Tie
University of Minnesota
Minneapolis, MN
$43,244 per year (in-state, full-time); $51,590 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 555
#25
Arizona State University (O'Connor)
Phoenix, AZ
$27,226 per year (in-state, full-time); $43,896 per year (out-of-state, full-time) 718
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Ultimately, are you happy with going to Chicago? I'm asking b/c it would be a top target of mine. I don't really want to think about HYS b/c 1) they're hard to get into 2) they're expensive and don't offer much scholarships.LurkerTurnedMember wrote:No. Unfortunately I got dinged at HYS and Berkeley (some waitlisted before dinging). I got into a few other schools and eventually chose Chicago given where it is, where I wanted to practice, and how good it is.doritosMotorola wrote:What ultimately led you to go to chicago, did you also get accepted into HYS?LurkerTurnedMember wrote:I went to U of Chicago. When I applied to law schools, I was working-class, doing a blue collar job finishing college. All my family and friends were same, everyday people with no particular connection to "engineering," "law," "medicine," etc. The perception at the time on which schools were best for me to apply, irrespective of actual US news rankings (we weren't really aware of at the beginning) and after we realized I could get into the "good" schools instead of applying "local," was Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and Berkeley. MIT and Princeton were also thrown in but obviously didn't apply. When I applied and told people where I was applying, they would almost always single out Harvard, Yale, Stanford, and Berkeley. A few also were impressed by U of Chicago. I know this is hugely anecdotal, but I come from an "everyday" background if you will. And since going through law school, and meeting so many overly well off people, I can't stand when someone from a well off background who grew up through private schools, and knew everything law because they grew up expected and prepared to be some kind of professional, tries to, with a sense of "the world rotates around me," impute their very researched and unordinary understanding of the legal profession and schools to everyday people, like that guy above who, like those snobs we all met at one point, for some reason still cares about private versus public school distinction.
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#hookemBVest wrote:A. Nony Mouse wrote:oh my god.
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Serious question, does the change in ranking make Harvard vs. Chicago a harder decision?
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No, Harvard reputation is still way ahead of chicago, regardless of ranking.doritosMotorola wrote:Serious question, does the change in ranking make Harvard vs. Chicago a harder decision?
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Amazing, although it almost caused me to choke to death on my lunch.BVest wrote:A. Nony Mouse wrote:oh my god.
I'd be surprised if pupkin hasn't already committed ritual seppuku for getting this year's rankings so embarrassingly wrong (if the USNWR people didn't get to him first), so I doubt he's going to respond.
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We may need to stage an intervention.
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Follow this advise from a famous ad com(edian) :doritosMotorola wrote:Serious question, does the change in ranking make Harvard vs. Chicago a harder decision?
“I don’t want to belong to any club that would accept me as one of its members.”
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Would you do it? What would any of you be willing to do? Would you sail to the ends of the earth and beyond to fetch back witty radio1nowhere, and him precious HLS preftige?


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