T10 for free or skip law school to teach Forum

[Catsinthebag]

Lol, please just start being honest and admit you're single-handedly trying to protect your job security by convincing people not to go to law school.

I am flattered that you think I'm so powerful that I can "single-handedly" protect my job security through my posts on TLS.

For what it's worth, I think I'm actually less risk averse than the TLS hive. I'll tell people to go to law school, or to pay somewhat more for a better law school, when others are screaming "retake!" or "don't go!" Each person's case is different.

Your statement above amounts to "All jobs are vulnerable and/or have petty bosses; therefore, don't go to law school."

Massive logic fail. But that's par for the course with you.

Trying doesn't mean succeeding. And talking people out of law school with absurd statements is your MO man, no logic needed.

[A. Nony Mouse]

I just find this weird because rpupkin is really not at all one of this board's most rabid DON'T GOOOOOOOO people.

[BigZuck]

I just find this weird

I know there's only 99 of them but this seems like a pretty standard #bagcatpost to me

[180kickflip]

Sounds like a good choice, except for one thing: I don't think that you are calculating the lost income well. You won't have 200k, you'll have 3 years of salary minus living expenses. Your debt estimate takes cost of living into account, so should your earnings estimate. Assuming 60k for both the difference is more like 140k, before taxes. You then have 25k or so of summer earnings.

There is a pretty good case that you're at more like $115k of a difference after three years, even if you do keep your job (first in, last out is a bitch but then again so is the legal industry.)

I still think that would take you about three years in biglaw to pay off, so this might not matter much to you.

I thought about this, but the 200k missed income figure is probably a little low considering summer school/summer tutoring earnings, and a 20k/yr COL while teaching is probably high since my house + car is paid for. Either way, I agree that (until NY to 190 happens), it'll take at least 3 years to get ahead.

[Gifted Hands]

Sounds like a good choice, except for one thing: I don't think that you are calculating the lost income well. You won't have 200k, you'll have 3 years of salary minus living expenses. Your debt estimate takes cost of living into account, so should your earnings estimate. Assuming 60k for both the difference is more like 140k, before taxes. You then have 25k or so of summer earnings.

There is a pretty good case that you're at more like $115k of a difference after three years, even if you do keep your job (first in, last out is a bitch but then again so is the legal industry.)

I still think that would take you about three years in biglaw to pay off, so this might not matter much to you.

I thought about this, but the 200k missed income figure is probably a little low considering summer school/summer tutoring earnings, and a 20k/yr COL while teaching is probably high since my house + car is paid for. Either way, I agree that (until NY to 190 happens), it'll take at least 3 years to get ahead.

190 will happen prob next year at the latest. esp with the min wage discourse going on in this country. wages are rising. and those bastards are making 5 million a year. this is worse than walmart ceo and the greeters

[WinterComing]

190 will happen prob next year at the latest. esp with the min wage discourse going on in this country. wages are rising. and those bastards are making 5 million a year. this is worse than walmart ceo and the greeters

This is good Gifted Hands content.

OP, have you figured out whether they'll let you keep your scholarship if you defer?

[jumbocolumbo]

This is good Gifted Hands content.

OP, have you figured out whether they'll let you keep your scholarship if you defer?

I want to hear a happy ending on this one (that being deferral w/ scholly)

[landshoes]

Sounds like a good choice, except for one thing: I don't think that you are calculating the lost income well. You won't have 200k, you'll have 3 years of salary minus living expenses. Your debt estimate takes cost of living into account, so should your earnings estimate. Assuming 60k for both the difference is more like 140k, before taxes. You then have 25k or so of summer earnings.

There is a pretty good case that you're at more like $115k of a difference after three years, even if you do keep your job (first in, last out is a bitch but then again so is the legal industry.)

I still think that would take you about three years in biglaw to pay off, so this might not matter much to you.

I thought about this, but the 200k missed income figure is probably a little low considering summer school/summer tutoring earnings, and a 20k/yr COL while teaching is probably high since my house + car is paid for. Either way, I agree that (until NY to 190 happens), it'll take at least 3 years to get ahead.

yeah, I wrote that and then thought that you probably already figured it all out but then I figured I'd post it anyway, obviously you have your shit straight on this topic

good luck

[whysoseriousbiglaw]

190 will happen prob next year at the latest. esp with the min wage discourse going on in this country. wages are rising. and those bastards are making 5 million a year. this is worse than walmart ceo and the greeters

190 isn't going to happen any time soon. Partners have no incentive to raise salaries when they still get hoards of naive, 200k debt law grads willing to suffer through biglaw to pay back loans and/or think it's good work experience.

Also, teaching, on average, sounds much more awesome than biglaw even if some of you have bad hours or kids yell at you...at least you get THREE WHOLE MONTHS OFF a year along with other school holidays. Also a lot of districts have awesome unions, tenure, pensions, decent salaries and hours, etc. Just find a good district. My high school AP teachers were paid like 110k all in for very little work....

[Tiago Splitter]

Partners have no incentive to raise salaries when they still get hoards of naive, 200k debt law grads willing to suffer through biglaw to pay back loans and/or think it's good work experience.

[studyingeveryday]

Please update us in a year (or a few months), I want to hear how you do in your new school and what you decide to do!