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Post by anyriotgirl » Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:20 am

I for one think OP would fit in great at harvard

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Post by 052220152 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:12 am

He def would

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Post by Alive97 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:57 pm

This thread is a testament to the proclivities of the TLS self-proclaimed "hivemind". And it's not pretty.

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Post by A. Nony Mouse » Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:04 pm

Alive97 wrote:This thread is a testament to the proclivities of the TLS self-proclaimed "hivemind". And it's not pretty.
Do you have anything to contribute to the OP's actual question?

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Re: Current DDS (Dentist) thinking about applying to top law school, how competitive?

Post by muskies970 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:15 pm

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flashes23 wrote:Thank you very much for the input.

I finally got a chance to be back at my computer so I can give a little more in-depth response. First of all I'm sorry if I offended anyone, it seems people in this forum are either overly sensitive or I'm not communicating properly. I'll address the situation as if the later were true. First off I mentioned my neck/back pain. It was probably my lack of communication that caused the answer I was given. When I'm talking about neck/back pain, I'm referring to sharp pains from pinched/obstructed nerves, loss of sensation in my hands, as well as numbness in extremities. I am expressing health concerns as one of the reasons I do not want to practice in this field and someone gives me the answer "working at a desk also hurts your neck/back". This too me came off as a sarcastic and snarky answer. Then they followed up with "if your making money stick to what your doing", this answer is also completely useless seeing as if I wanted to practice dentistry I wouldn't be in this forum. I answered that post with an equally snarky post however now I am an "asshole" lol. Nonetheless, I thank the poster for the amount of good info that was also in the same post.

Secondly, I did use the search function and yes many of the same sentiments were echoed in prior posts, specifically, "numbers are all that matter". The reason I chose to ask the same question here is because I am truly dumbfounded by this. With no penalty for choosing an easy major, university, classes, and the ability to hire a personal tutor for the LSAT I don't see how this sort of system can possibly function. I participated in the admissions dept. at my school for a couple of years and this would NEVER fly there. We had olympic athletes, professional musicians, as well as a lawyer & pharmacist in our class. We looked at students with soft sciences majors and accounted for that when compared to harder majors such as physics, engineering, chemistry etc. Interviews were probably 60% of the deciding factor, and out of 4500 applicant maybe 600 got interviews.

As you can imagine coming from my background hearing that I could be an english or psych major with a 4.0 and study long enough to do well on the LSAT I would be let into a top school is literally mind blowing lol. I appreciate your patience with me and thank you for the great answers.

Finally, as to why Harvard. Most of the arguments here are about cost, but like I said i've done well enough to where that isn't a contributing factor for me. When somebody wants to buy 700$ Ferragamo shoes from Nordstrom, it doesn't matter how many free pairs he can get at Walmart/Payless. Its a life experience and challenge that I do not think I would regret just because I paid more. Having grown up with nothing and achieving some success I am less and less fueled by money, and more fueled by great experiences, challenges, and finishing the things I've always wanted to do.

Of course its nice to have the prestige of going to Harvard law School, I've done well enough to be able to afford it so why deprive myself just to save some money. Finally the most import reason as to why Harvard is the marketing potential alone is worth the 200k. Having been a practicing dentist, with a Harvard law degree, I would have a very strong marketing presence when dental malpractice cases arise. You all may know that good lawyers come from various small and large schools all over the United States, but to the average person someone that was a dentist and is a Harvard lawyer is as good as it gets from a dental malpractice case. If I were a single 25 year old with a 3k a month loan to pay off and only having a law degree of course I wouldn't go to Harvard over a full-ride, but that isn't my situation at all.

Some posters have said this does not make sense, if there is anything in particular I would love to answer what doesn't make sense. There are not many dentists with law degrees and having been in the dental world I know of the large potential there is for me. Not worrying about student loans, and having an alternate career puts me in a unique position, and more importantly gives me many unique opportunities that I am interested in pursuing.
Wow qfp man you earned it.
I just want to point out I spelled you're correctly in my post which you did not.

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Post by 052220152 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:26 pm

Alive97 wrote:This thread is a testament to the proclivities of the TLS self-proclaimed "hivemind". And it's not pretty.
I'm not sure exactly what you mean to say here. Could you write clearer and more succinct?

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Post by Alive97 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:57 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Alive97 wrote:This thread is a testament to the proclivities of the TLS self-proclaimed "hivemind". And it's not pretty.
Do you have anything to contribute to the OP's actual question?
I did on the first page. But probably a more useful thing to say to him is that TLS advice should be treated with a certain amount of skepticism. This is a classic example of someone who is an exceptional case (money is not a consideration), which people are not fully recognizing. And of course, they are overstating their points (I'd bet the portion of TLS that is not pre-law is a self-selecting group more likely to be negative and cynical). Here's a selection of some of the reasoning in this thread:

- Dentists only went to dental school because they weren't smart enough to be doctors.

- If a male is rich, it doesn't make sense for him not to have a wife.

- When money isn't a consideration, it doesn't make sense to go to law school.

- People who didn't scroll down to look at all the available sections on this site are not intelligent.

- Harvard should not be pursued if one's goal does not involve prestigious work.

- Everyone with a high GPA, skill at standardized tests, and an interest in medicine pursues medical school rather than dentistry.

- Anyone who believes a school's acceptance rate is indicative of its difficulty lacks critical reasoning skills.

- Anyone experiencing back/neck pain as a result of an activity other than sitting at a desk will experience the same pain as the result of sitting at a desk.

- It's reasonable to assume that anyone who is interested in one of the top 3 law schools is seeking a job that pays very well.

- The owner of a dental practice probably can't make money off the practice if he/she is not practicing there.

- The owner of a dental practice should live close to the practice if he/she wants to make money off of it.


There you have it folks - TLS advice givers overstating what they know. It's a thing, and it has an effect on newcomers.

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Post by Mr. Peanutbutter » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:12 pm

Alive97 wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Alive97 wrote:This thread is a testament to the proclivities of the TLS self-proclaimed "hivemind". And it's not pretty.
Do you have anything to contribute to the OP's actual question?
I did on the first page. But probably a more useful thing to say to him is that TLS advice should be treated with a certain amount of skepticism. This is a classic example of someone who is an exceptional case (money is not a consideration), which people are not fully recognizing. And of course, they are overstating their points (I'd bet the portion of TLS that is not pre-law is a self-selecting group more likely to be negative and cynical). Here's a selection of some of the reasoning in this thread:

- Dentists only went to dental school because they weren't smart enough to be doctors.

- If a male is rich, it doesn't make sense for him not to have a wife.

- When money isn't a consideration, it doesn't make sense to go to law school.

- People who didn't scroll down to look at all the available sections on this site are not intelligent.

- Harvard should not be pursued if one's goal does not involve prestigious work.

- Everyone with a high GPA, skill at standardized tests, and an interest in medicine pursues medical school rather than dentistry.

- Anyone who believes a school's acceptance rate is indicative of its difficulty lacks critical reasoning skills.

- Anyone experiencing back/neck pain as a result of an activity other than sitting at a desk will experience the same pain as the result of sitting at a desk.

- It's reasonable to assume that anyone who is interested in one of the top 3 law schools is seeking a job that pays very well.

- The owner of a dental practice probably can't make money off the practice if he/she is not practicing there.

- The owner of a dental practice should live close to the practice if he/she wants to make money off of it.


There you have it folks - TLS advice givers overstating what they know. It's a thing, and it has an effect on newcomers.
The problem isn't that people say these things, it's that they feign stupidity (or really are that stupid) and don't differentiate between jokes/hyperbolic advice and serious advice. Sure, not every post is written by Spivey or Campos, but jesus christ dude this isn't Yahoo Answers. Chill.

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Post by Alive97 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:16 pm

As far as I can tell, those were all attempts at serious advice.

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Post by Mr. Peanutbutter » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:18 pm

Alive97 wrote:As far as I can tell, those were all attempts at serious advice.
Oh, they looked more like assumptions that were being made to discredit the OP's story and expose a flame. But you're right, it's probably an indictment of TLS as a whole and not silly reactions to a supremely silly poster.

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Post by A. Nony Mouse » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:54 pm

Alive97 wrote:As far as I can tell, those were all attempts at serious advice.
I actually agree that people were making assumptions about dentistry, but no, I really don't think all those were serious attempts at advice.

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Post by xael » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:55 pm

A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Alive97 wrote:As far as I can tell, those were all attempts at serious advice.
I actually agree that people were making assumptions about dentistry, but no, I really don't think all those were serious attempts at advice.
Oh I was 100% serious that people who don't realize there is a substantial portion of the forum dedicated to current students and grads are mentally inferior

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Post by A. Nony Mouse » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:57 pm

xael wrote:
A. Nony Mouse wrote:
Alive97 wrote:As far as I can tell, those were all attempts at serious advice.
I actually agree that people were making assumptions about dentistry, but no, I really don't think all those were serious attempts at advice.
Oh I was 100% serious that people who don't realize there is a substantial portion of the forum dedicated to current students and grads are mentally inferior
Not sure I'd call that advice, though.

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Post by smaug » Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:10 pm

op please hit me up about shitlaw prospects

i'm more prestigious than half of these clowns

i'll give you real advice for some of your time/to pitch my shitlaw dreams to you.

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Post by 052220152 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:16 am

Alive97 wrote:
I did on the first page. But probably a more useful thing to say to him is that TLS advice should be treated with a certain amount of skepticism. This is a classic example of someone who is an exceptional case (money is not a consideration), which people are not fully recognizing. And of course, they are overstating their points (I'd bet the portion of TLS that is not pre-law is a self-selecting group more likely to be negative and cynical). Here's a selection of some of the reasoning in this thread:

- Dentists only went to dental school because they weren't smart enough to be doctors.

- If a male is rich, it doesn't make sense for him not to have a wife.

- When money isn't a consideration, it doesn't make sense to go to law school.

- People who didn't scroll down to look at all the available sections on this site are not intelligent.

- Harvard should not be pursued if one's goal does not involve prestigious work.

- Everyone with a high GPA, skill at standardized tests, and an interest in medicine pursues medical school rather than dentistry.

- Anyone who believes a school's acceptance rate is indicative of its difficulty lacks critical reasoning skills.

- Anyone experiencing back/neck pain as a result of an activity other than sitting at a desk will experience the same pain as the result of sitting at a desk.

- It's reasonable to assume that anyone who is interested in one of the top 3 law schools is seeking a job that pays very well.

- The owner of a dental practice probably can't make money off the practice if he/she is not practicing there.

- The owner of a dental practice should live close to the practice if he/she wants to make money off of it.


There you have it folks - TLS advice givers overstating what they know. It's a thing, and it has an effect on newcomers.

Lol, this is some real mental midgetry

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Post by El Pollito » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:20 am

Jim Jones wrote:
Alive97 wrote:
I did on the first page. But probably a more useful thing to say to him is that TLS advice should be treated with a certain amount of skepticism. This is a classic example of someone who is an exceptional case (money is not a consideration), which people are not fully recognizing. And of course, they are overstating their points (I'd bet the portion of TLS that is not pre-law is a self-selecting group more likely to be negative and cynical). Here's a selection of some of the reasoning in this thread:

- Dentists only went to dental school because they weren't smart enough to be doctors.

- If a male is rich, it doesn't make sense for him not to have a wife.

- When money isn't a consideration, it doesn't make sense to go to law school.

- People who didn't scroll down to look at all the available sections on this site are not intelligent.

- Harvard should not be pursued if one's goal does not involve prestigious work.

- Everyone with a high GPA, skill at standardized tests, and an interest in medicine pursues medical school rather than dentistry.

- Anyone who believes a school's acceptance rate is indicative of its difficulty lacks critical reasoning skills.

- Anyone experiencing back/neck pain as a result of an activity other than sitting at a desk will experience the same pain as the result of sitting at a desk.

- It's reasonable to assume that anyone who is interested in one of the top 3 law schools is seeking a job that pays very well.

- The owner of a dental practice probably can't make money off the practice if he/she is not practicing there.

- The owner of a dental practice should live close to the practice if he/she wants to make money off of it.


There you have it folks - TLS advice givers overstating what they know. It's a thing, and it has an effect on newcomers.

Lol, this is some real mental midgetry
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Those were all serious statements made in support of someone's argument. So like I said...this thread stands as a testament.

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Post by A. Nony Mouse » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:05 am

I'm not going to defend all the statements made in this thread (though note also some of them come after the OP gets defensive and consequently snarky), but your concern with finding examples of the "hivemind" and dismissing them for that reason alone, is kind of tiresome. What is "the hivemind" other than "generally held beliefs that I don't agree with"?

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Post by pancakes3 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:08 pm

This thread is steering from "stupid" to "fucking stupid"

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Post by 052220152 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:08 pm

Alive97 wrote:Those were all serious statements made in support of someone's argument. So like I said...this thread stands as a testament.
You don't seem smart

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Post by Alive97 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:39 pm

Vintage TLS posts from those "in the advanced stages of law school" ;).

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Post by 052220152 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:33 am

Alive97 wrote:Vintage TLS posts from those "in the advanced stages of law school" ;).
I think you're dumb because you were unable to figure out which comments were derisive or satirical. Then you included good pieces of wisdom in your bad advice list. And, then you attributed it all to a nonexistent hive mind as opposed to addressing the points you disagreed with directly. You're also a bad writer. You try to sound smart by using big words and doing weird grammar things.

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Post by Alive97 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:43 am

I congratulate you on using punctuation in that TLS post. I guess you rolled up your sleeves for that one so you could deploy your wisdom-enhancing law school experience to claim TLS troll/humor after the fact ;).

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Post by pancakes3 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:14 pm

bro, there are better hills to die on. especially if you're going up against the great and powerful HIVEMIND

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Post by ihenry » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:18 pm

Why isn't this thread locked?

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