Well, that remains to be seen. I'm retaking next Saturday. Depending how things go, I may apply to a reach or two that I have fee waivers from. Good luck on your cycle!r6_philly wrote:I am very happy for you that you won't have to take a chance with a hail mary. (I am not sarcastic, seriously happy for you)atresia wrote:FTFY (IMO)whymeohgodno wrote:Nothing wrong with applying places where your numbers are well below 25th. Just don't expectmuchanything.
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So I have very amazing softs, multiple of what you listed, does that make me more credible than you? Also I go to a Ivy FWIW.atresia wrote:Amazing softs, off the top of my head:ahduth wrote:What the hell are amazing softs. Beanie babies? Some sort of feminine hygiene product?
I want to understand the premise of these discussions.
Olympic medal
Held highly-competitive elected office
Award-winning musician, artist, etc.
Professional athlete
Significant military accomplishments
Unique work experience
Softs that, while impressive, likely won't help much (if at all):
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Good luck on your retake. You should believe in reachesatresia wrote:Well, that remains to be seen. I'm retaking next Saturday. Depending how things go, I may apply to a reach or two that I have fee waivers from. Good luck on your cycle!r6_philly wrote:I am very happy for you that you won't have to take a chance with a hail mary. (I am not sarcastic, seriously happy for you)atresia wrote:FTFY (IMO)whymeohgodno wrote:Nothing wrong with applying places where your numbers are well below 25th. Just don't expectmuchanything.

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Yes... enjoy $$$$ at T6!r6_philly wrote:So I have very amazing softs, multiple of what you listed, does that make me more credible than you? Also I go to a Ivy FWIW.

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Ya right. My LSAT is too low for T6, they are all "considers".atresia wrote:Yes... enjoy $$$$ at T6!r6_philly wrote:So I have very amazing softs, multiple of what you listed, does that make me more credible than you? Also I go to a Ivy FWIW.
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lol, nice, you called out shaggier. That guy seems wicked reasonable. Which, in and of itself, is a reason to call him out. Reasonable people have no place in the legal profession.ISTAND wrote:You're extremely arrogant and condescending. If a below average applicant wants to give it a shot who are YOU to discourage them? What a lawyer you'd be. To the OP don't pay attention to this fool I wish you all the luck. Too bad there's no test for character atresia bec you'd FAIL. I've been on this site a short while and frankly am sick of all the arrogant people. Same goes for patriot1208 - maybe YOU lack soft factors, or at least part of your brain. Shaggier1 too etc.atresia wrote:Extreme cases are obviously different. In general, though, I doubt most of those sub-160s had stories similar to the one you outlined above. Look, I believe in making breaks and beating the odds, but for a plurality of those applicants, the $75 wasn't worth it. Plain and simple.
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding what's being discussed in this thread. Your odds of getting into an Ivy League law school with an LSAT below 160 are astronomically small. You must be an URM, and have some incredibly unique and compelling reason that would cause a school to overlook your inability to score well on a test that everyone else was able to handle much more easily. I'd say give it a shot if it's just one school. Just don't hold your breath.
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I am calling you out for being reasonable right here.ahduth wrote:
lol, nice, you called out shaggier. That guy seems wicked reasonable. Which, in and of itself, is a reason to call him out. Reasonable people have no place in the legal profession.
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding what's being discussed in this thread. Your odds of getting into an Ivy League law school with an LSAT below 160 are astronomically small. You must be an URM, and have some incredibly unique and compelling reason that would cause a school to overlook your inability to score well on a test that everyone else was able to handle much more easily. I'd say give it a shot if it's just one school. Just don't hold your breath.
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I'm a little upset you grouped these with the others, because being a d1 athlete is far more impressive than those. But that doesn't mean you aren't right that it probably won't help me much.atresia wrote:Softs that, while impressive, likely won't help much (if at all):
Varsity athlete (without acclaim)
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Case in point. I will not be involved in the legal profession, as I will get YP'd by MVP and everyone ranking lower, and drummed out of CCN and above because my personal statement was too reasonable, and not memorable enough.r6_philly wrote:I am calling you out for being reasonable right here.ahduth wrote:
lol, nice, you called out shaggier. That guy seems wicked reasonable. Which, in and of itself, is a reason to call him out. Reasonable people have no place in the legal profession.
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding what's being discussed in this thread. Your odds of getting into an Ivy League law school with an LSAT below 160 are astronomically small. You must be an URM, and have some incredibly unique and compelling reason that would cause a school to overlook your inability to score well on a test that everyone else was able to handle much more easily. I'd say give it a shot if it's just one school. Just don't hold your breath.
They get rid of reasonable people with good reason. Reasonable people make terrible lawyers.
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What does a statement that is "too reasonable" say?ahduth wrote:Case in point. I will not be involved in the legal profession, as I will get YP'd by MVP and everyone ranking lower, and drummed out of CCN and above because my personal statement was too reasonable, and not memorable enough.r6_philly wrote:I am calling you out for being reasonable right here.ahduth wrote:
lol, nice, you called out shaggier. That guy seems wicked reasonable. Which, in and of itself, is a reason to call him out. Reasonable people have no place in the legal profession.
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding what's being discussed in this thread. Your odds of getting into an Ivy League law school with an LSAT below 160 are astronomically small. You must be an URM, and have some incredibly unique and compelling reason that would cause a school to overlook your inability to score well on a test that everyone else was able to handle much more easily. I'd say give it a shot if it's just one school. Just don't hold your breath.
They get rid of reasonable people with good reason. Reasonable people make terrible lawyers.
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Depends what sport I think.Patriot1208 wrote:I'm a little upset you grouped these with the others, because being a d1 athlete is far more impressive than those. But that doesn't mean you aren't right that it probably won't help me much.atresia wrote:Softs that, while impressive, likely won't help much (if at all):
Varsity athlete (without acclaim)
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"you should totally not admit me just to be reasonable" HTHarism87 wrote:What does a statement that is "too reasonable" say?ahduth wrote:Case in point. I will not be involved in the legal profession, as I will get YP'd by MVP and everyone ranking lower, and drummed out of CCN and above because my personal statement was too reasonable, and not memorable enough.r6_philly wrote:I am calling you out for being reasonable right here.ahduth wrote:
lol, nice, you called out shaggier. That guy seems wicked reasonable. Which, in and of itself, is a reason to call him out. Reasonable people have no place in the legal profession.
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding what's being discussed in this thread. Your odds of getting into an Ivy League law school with an LSAT below 160 are astronomically small. You must be an URM, and have some incredibly unique and compelling reason that would cause a school to overlook your inability to score well on a test that everyone else was able to handle much more easily. I'd say give it a shot if it's just one school. Just don't hold your breath.
They get rid of reasonable people with good reason. Reasonable people make terrible lawyers.
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"Too reasonable" is similar to milquetoast, but without the social or cultural resonance.arism87 wrote:What does a statement that is "too reasonable" say?
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ED to one of MVP. Problem solved.ahduth wrote:Case in point. I will not be involved in the legal profession, as I will get YP'd by MVP and everyone ranking lower, and drummed out of CCN and above because my personal statement was too reasonable, and not memorable enough.r6_philly wrote:I am calling you out for being reasonable right here.ahduth wrote:
lol, nice, you called out shaggier. That guy seems wicked reasonable. Which, in and of itself, is a reason to call him out. Reasonable people have no place in the legal profession.
I guess I'm having a hard time understanding what's being discussed in this thread. Your odds of getting into an Ivy League law school with an LSAT below 160 are astronomically small. You must be an URM, and have some incredibly unique and compelling reason that would cause a school to overlook your inability to score well on a test that everyone else was able to handle much more easily. I'd say give it a shot if it's just one school. Just don't hold your breath.
They get rid of reasonable people with good reason. Reasonable people make terrible lawyers.
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I am very reasonable.ahduth wrote:
Case in point. I will not be involved in the legal profession, as I will get YP'd by MVP and everyone ranking lower, and drummed out of CCN and above because my personal statement was too reasonable, and not memorable enough.
They get rid of reasonable people with good reason. Reasonable people make terrible lawyers.
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Unreasonably confident in your reasonableness, one might say.r6_philly wrote:I am very reasonable.ahduth wrote:
Case in point. I will not be involved in the legal profession, as I will get YP'd by MVP and everyone ranking lower, and drummed out of CCN and above because my personal statement was too reasonable, and not memorable enough.
They get rid of reasonable people with good reason. Reasonable people make terrible lawyers.
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Um I'm pretty sure that the 158 outed himself on LSN as a uber legacy i'd post the link to his profile but i'm not sure thats within internet etiquette. feel free to inform me otherwise and i'll put up the link
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to clarify thats the one 158 at Yale
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I personally think it's a great accomplishment, but as far as I can tell, adcomms don't.Patriot1208 wrote:I'm a little upset you grouped these with the others, because being a d1 athlete is far more impressive than those. But that doesn't mean you aren't right that it probably won't help me much.atresia wrote:Softs that, while impressive, likely won't help much (if at all):
Varsity athlete (without acclaim)
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I agree with your assessment, just because I am so reasonable.ahduth wrote:Unreasonably confident in your reasonableness, one might say.r6_philly wrote:I am very reasonable.ahduth wrote:
Case in point. I will not be involved in the legal profession, as I will get YP'd by MVP and everyone ranking lower, and drummed out of CCN and above because my personal statement was too reasonable, and not memorable enough.
They get rid of reasonable people with good reason. Reasonable people make terrible lawyers.
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Otherwise.FlanAl wrote:Um I'm pretty sure that the 158 outed himself on LSN as a uber legacy i'd post the link to his profile but i'm not sure thats within internet etiquette. feel free to inform me otherwise and i'll put up the link
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I am going to call myself out for some very subtle B trolling in my above thread, in case anyone missed it. I think that school exists in a separate space in my mind, just because its admissions process seems so very reasonable. Examining candidates with a view to creating an intellectually sophisticated and diverse student body?r6_philly wrote:I agree with your assessment, just because I am so reasonable.ahduth wrote:Unreasonably confident in your reasonableness, one might say.r6_philly wrote:I am very reasonable.ahduth wrote:
Case in point. I will not be involved in the legal profession, as I will get YP'd by MVP and everyone ranking lower, and drummed out of CCN and above because my personal statement was too reasonable, and not memorable enough.
They get rid of reasonable people with good reason. Reasonable people make terrible lawyers.
Too reasonable. There, I'm simply going to be denied admission because I applied after Thanksgiving lol.
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This looks like a flame.FlanAl wrote:http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Fingerscrossed27
Edit: not your post, but the LSN poster.
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Ok the only real question is why his brother went to Columbia. His brother would have gotten super legacy also...FlanAl wrote:http://lawschoolnumbers.com/Fingerscrossed27
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