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bumblebeetoona

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by bumblebeetoona » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:00 pm
YCrevolution wrote:bumblebeetoona wrote:YCrevolution wrote:Lyov Myshkin wrote:i dont see any colors.. am i using this right? where's the green and red and orange and stuff?
It should work in Firefox (recommended) or IE (special thanks to CyLaw for the code for both browsers). I haven't tested it in Safari.
Color certainly works in Firefox. Especially the color red.
I don't mean to be mean, but I definitely lol'ed.
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HuckFinn587

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by HuckFinn587 » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:04 pm
although i totally agree that you drop alot in percentage chance for acceptance in this version
am i the only one who thinks that this version is WAY more accurate?
the other version had me 'strong consider' at Yale which is to be honest completely unrealistic
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Lyov Myshkin

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by Lyov Myshkin » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:07 pm
HuckFinn587 wrote:although i totally agree that you drop alot in percentage chance for acceptance in this version
am i the only one who thinks that this version is WAY more accurate?
the other version had me 'strong consider' at Yale which is to be honest completely unrealistic
yeah it's way better. way too overly optimistic before.
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Iuvo

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by Iuvo » Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:42 pm
This version seems far more realistic.
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anothernancydrew

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by anothernancydrew » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:06 pm
I'm a little confused with the update...
Overall, the chances seem more realistic, but there are some strange cases: At WashU, it shows 'weak consider' with 44%, but BU shows 'consider' with only 31%. In the same vein, Cornell says 'deny' with 26% whereas Emory shows 'weak consider' with 17%. Is this just a kink in the system that will be ironed out, or is there something about the new version that I don't understand?
Thanks!
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Helmholtz

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by Helmholtz » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:06 pm
anothernancydrew wrote:I'm a little confused with the update...
Overall, the chances seem more realistic, but there are some strange cases: At WashU, it shows 'weak consider' with 44%, but BU shows 'consider' with only 31%. In the same vein, Cornell says 'deny' with 26% whereas Emory shows 'weak consider' with 17%. Is this just a kink in the system that will be ironed out, or is there something about the new version that I don't understand?
Thanks!
It might have something to do with yield rates? I dunno.
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Lyov Myshkin

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by Lyov Myshkin » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:23 pm
YCrevolution wrote:*Your predictions are also forward-looking in the sense that they try to predict your chances relative to the 09-10 applicant pool (versus the 07-08, Class of 2011, applicant pool).
that's pretty awesome. but how do you do that exactly? do you compute an X expected rise in medians?
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Lyov Myshkin

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by Lyov Myshkin » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:42 pm
YCrevolution wrote:YCrevolution wrote:Lyov Myshkin wrote:YCrevolution wrote:*Your predictions are also forward-looking in the sense that they try to predict your chances relative to the 09-10 applicant pool (versus the 07-08, Class of 2011, applicant pool).
that's pretty awesome. but how do you do that exactly? do you compute an X expected rise in medians?

I didn't mean for that to make me sound smarter than I am or for LSP to sound more intelligent that it is. For the most part, it's just a combination of comparing predictions against a matriculating class's data (versus an admitted class) and the boost algorithms which try to come up with an appropriate boost for current applicants. I try to keep an eye on LSN data to make sure things aren't too drastically different (I'm working on a way to account for LSAT and GPA walls right now, too, along with in-state residency.)
One of the reasons why LSP tends to remain a bit on the pessimistic side, is that I still have yet to figure out a way to properly account for the differences between matriculating students (in this case, from class of 2011) and current applicants without LSP becoming wildly and broadly overly-optimistic.
Also, the lesson I learned from today is that I'm probably going to have TLS-exclusive beta versions of new releases from now on.
awesome.
at a certain point though, shouldn't rises in medians stabilize? i mean, after all, there is a cap on number potential.
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Lmao Zedong

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by Lmao Zedong » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:24 am
granted, i'm saying this as someone whose GPA is the dead weight holding back my LSAT, but
it really is laughable how many 3.8+s there are around. it seems like it just doesn't mean anything anymore. thank god high LSAT scores are actually in short supply, because good GPAs sure as hell aren't
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by Lyov Myshkin » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:24 am
GargamelITT wrote:granted, i'm saying this as someone whose GPA is the dead weight holding back my LSAT, but
it really is laughable how many 3.8+s there are around. it seems like it just doesn't mean anything anymore. thank god high LSAT scores are actually in short supply, because good GPAs sure as hell aren't
hehehe..

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by ruleser » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:13 pm
Tested it out today - seems pretty solid now. Nice work... now here's hoping for a nice large number to plug in there...
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by LSATfromNC » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:21 pm
YCrevolution, in your opinion, what percentage of a persons applications should be reaches, targets or safeties?
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by nygrrrl » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:33 pm
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by roadkilllaw » Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:21 pm
YCrevolution wrote:LSATfromNC wrote:YCrevolution, in your opinion, what percentage of a persons applications should be reaches, targets or safeties?
Law School Predictor wrote:For applicants who will be using LSP to help them decide which schools to apply to, I suggest applying to at least a few “Weak Consider” schools. Overall, the strategies I’m about to list are on the aggressive side, and applicants whose primary concern is just to get into any law school should probably be a bit more conservative in their approach. These strategies are also designed with the goal of getting applicants into the highest-ranked law school, and applicants who want to work in a specific region or who are seeking significant scholarship money should adjust their strategy accordingly. It’s also important to keep in mind that state residents often get a boost at their respective state school(s).
If you’re applying to five (5) schools, I recommend:
- One (1) Admit
- One (1) Strong Consider
- Two (2) Consider
- One (1) Weak Consider
- Zero (0) Deny
If you’re applying to ten (10) schools, I recommend:
- One (1) Admit
- Two (2) Strong Consider
- Three (3) Consider
- Three (3) Weak Consider
- One (1) Deny
If you’re applying to twenty (20) schools, I recommend:
- Three (3) Admit
- Five (5) Strong Consider
- Five (5) Consider
- Five (5) Weak Consider
- Two (2) Deny
If you want to be more on the conservative side, I would shift schools from the Deny/Weak Consider categories into the Consider and Strong Consider categories. Also, LSP predictions can be off (for example: Berkeley) and doesn't take really impressive softs or state residency into account, so if you think you have a better chance at a school than LSP predicts, adjust your application strategy accordingly.
In reach/target/safety terms with ~10 schools (if less than 10, become more conservative, if more than 10, become more aggressive):
Reach: 20%
Target: 60%
Safety: 20%
Do you stand by this for extreme splitters too? (High LSAT, extremely low gpa)
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